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To: Ditto
You sound like the type who believes that the US won both WWI and WWII and brought the idea of democracy to Europe, without which Europe would still be in the Dark Ages. Am I wrong? I hope so.
60 posted on 10/08/2001 3:32:24 PM PDT by NewAmsterdam
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To: NewAmsterdam
You sound like the type who believes that the US won both WWI and WWII

Well, in December of 1941, only the UK remained in the West, and they were hanging on by their fingernails and would have starved in less than a year. And Comrade Joe was back pedaling so fast he would have bumped into Tojo before long. I guess without America to deal with in the Pacific, Tojo would have had an open dance card for old Joe in Siberia. I seem to recall Stalin was really hurting for some hardware from those evil American capitalists. (built with the blood of downtrodden American workers of course).

Now you want to tell me that Europe would have beat Hitler without the US? Go ahead.... tell me that. It must be in one of your revisionist history book somewhere.

... and brought the idea of democracy to Europe, without which Europe would still be in the Dark Ages. Am I wrong? I hope so.

Which part of Europe? The part East of the Elbe was pretty much dark age in terms of democracy until recently. Poland had some history --- Czech republic a little less, but the rest had spent all of history under the feet of tyrants. Did America have a part in freeing those people? What do you think?

As to Western Europe, Comrade Joe had his people all set to take over after WWII. France, Italy, Belgium. All they needed was bunches of hungry people. They got foiled by a little bit of American imperialist foreign policy called the Marshall Plan then another bit of interventionist empire building called the Berlin Air Lift. Then there was all those times in the 50s and 60s where those ugly American flexed their muscles at Checkpoint Charlie. Those damn Americans.... always messing around in other people's business. They sure took all the fun out of European politics. The Europeans had it down to a good knock down drag out war every generation and America messed around so much that its been 50 years since they went for each others throats. Hell, they even use the same currency now! God knows when the next time we’ll get to see the Germans beat the snot out of the French. What party poopers.

I bet you want to tell me that Hitler would have been defeated without America and the Europeans would still be getting their 6 weeks of vacation in the Caribbean from the State Commissars if America hadn’t insisted on Democracy for Europe after WWII. I know you want to tell me that. Go ahead.

88 posted on 10/08/2001 4:31:40 PM PDT by Ditto
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