BREAKING : SECOND POSITIVE TEST FOR ANTHRAX : PBC

Telephone call and previous thread | 10/8/2001 | Centurion2000

[Centurion2000]

Previous article : Second Anthrax case in FL. CDC, FBI on scene. Bush notified

Second positive test for anthrax found.

Just spoke with the NEWS desk at WPEC NEWS 12 newsdesk ...

here is what they know. They HAVE CONFIRMED that the second individual has TESTED POSITIVE for Anthrax in a nasal swab test so that he has been exposed.

He is being treated with antibiotics

They are testing the building.

The number at the office is 1-800-310-WPEC. You can confirm it yourself by pressing option 2 at the prompt.

[alieno nomine]

Me thinks its high time we start a new thread...
Anyone here with the skills to make it so?

[cyberwatcher]

#191---Yes, and we have reafirmed our committment to Taiwan in the past weeks.

[AmericanGurl]

I could speculate forever, that's when I get into trouble. Just think, crop dusters, tobacco fields, smokers...inhalation. Blah! I worked myself into a headache. Goodnight All!

[Black Cat]

It's not two days later, it's ELEVEN days since he started showing sympoms on Sept 27th and it could have been a week to a month before that when he was exposed. If he'd started showing symptoms and then two days later, someone else did, I'd be a lot more worried than I am now but this looks more to me like he was likely the one who introduced the spores to the building.

At any rate, it seems that no one else is showing any symptoms at all and according to everything I've read, if you start antibiotic treatment before symptoms appear, you have a very good chance of preventing the disease -- whatever it's source...

[stlnative]

My question about the printing presses being in the same building does not mean anything. Except for the fact that this would be one way it could have entered the building.

It could have entered the building naturally and could be in the newsprint rolls (huge rolls of newsprint paper that has been recycled and is run through the printing presses)If it is found in the paper rolls then this would be likely how the people in the SAME BUILDING would breath it in. If you have ever been in building that prints newspaper or product cartons then the paper dust is extremely high and is everywhere within the same building/ There are not many laws about ventilation in buildings like this. Paper dust is normally harmless.

I do not think that if it was planted in the building that it would survive being put into ink.

Most printing companies have ventilation system on their presses due to ink fumes, but they do not have then to pull out the paper dust in the air.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Secondly, he was not a photographer, he was a photo editor. He was the guy with the airbrush who worked on the photos. Ever see those tabloid photos of various heads of state shaking hands with "the space alien"? How do you think they managed to get those shots?

Did he do the photos of Hillary and her alien lover?!!

[World'sGoneInsane]

Even though it was more than likely just a hoax, the FBI ought to hear about it to let them make that kind of determination.

Yes, they ought to hear about it, so they could check it out. That was my point. AmericanGurl said she passed it along to someone.

[the_Watchman]

Too low tech for China. Probably from Osama, Iraq, Palestinians and the Pakis.

Of course China would want it to look like it came from Iraq. They wouldn't deliver it in a fortune cookie. The point is to get us at war with the entire Arab world.

[Fulbright]

Again, I don't think the terrorists moved into digs a few miles from the National Enquirer offices so they could use that for their piece de resistance. The offices just happened to be nearby. The real target is somewhere else...

And what would the real target be? The Lantana Beach Holiday Inn? Two people who worked in the same office at the newspaper with the second largest circulation in America, but the real target is somewhere else. I'm not buying.

[cyberwatcher]

Cool! Okay, Drudge Check your email!!!

[Diogenesis]

What is the relation of this building to the airport?

[cyberwatcher]

I FINALLY got 2 simultanious alerts from MSNBC.

[Black Cat]

Believe me, when I started reading the previous thread, I was scared too, but at times like this, it's easy to jump to conclusions -- everybody is very much on edge.

Let me tell you something else that I heard on CNN when the story about the man with the disease first came out. Their medical expert confirmed that it had been a quarter-century since the last reported case of pulmonary anthrax, but he also said that since the disease was so rare, if someone showing the man'symptoms came to a hospital, anthrax simply would not have been considered since that's not one of the standard tests they run for the symptoms he was showing. It's only because there's a nationwide alert for ANY suspicious cases that this man came to the attention of the CDC. It's possible that there have been many cases which simply were never properly diagnosed and just put down as pneumonia or something.

[Centurion2000]

THREAD TWO

[Don Joe]

"Since it generally is found in the soil, the most logical way it could be spread would be if he had it on his shoes and left it in the carpeting which could later be stirred up as dust in the building."

Only problem is that you don't catch it from the soil. If that were the case, people would be coming down with it right and left all the time, because it's not uncommon.

The reason there have only been 18 cases -- strike that, 20 cases -- in the past hundred years is because it's not easy to catch. The victims tend to be sheep shearers, or people who come into contact with infected wool products.

Now, let's invoke Ockham, shall we? We are in the middle of a war with a rabid enemy, who would have no compunctions about using bio-warfare on us if he could. We know that the victims were located within a mile of so of the training area of some of enemy operatives. We know that the enemy operatives were trying to line up cropduster aircraft. We can probably assume that they were not planning on trying to make a few bucks by spraying bug juice on a cornfield, since they were rolling in Omama bin Lardin's dough, and they in fact returned a hefty surplus to the maggot shortly before embarking on their final mission.

So you tell me. Do we go for the simplest, least convoluted theory, or do we continue to play an increasingly absurd game of sequential "what-ifs" to explain what is the most likely scenario?

Somewhere between wishing on a star and whistling in the dark comes the moment when we're confronted with the brutal truth. The only question at that time is whether we choose to acknowledge it, or look for the nearest sandbox so that we can play ostrich.

[Sabertooth]

"The only question at that time is whether we choose to acknowledge it, or look for the nearest sandbox so that we can play ostrich."

Couldn't the anthrax be dormant in the sand?

Has there ever been a case of anyone catching it from an ostrich?

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Hey, it was worth a try! Seems the lamestream media is a bit behind the 8-ball on this one. Drudge might as well give 'em the what-for on this one as well.

[this_ol_patriot]

However, it's not likely that these guys would have left Anthrax lying around is it? Anthrax wasn't involved in the plane hijacks.

Who knows what they were messing around with, they could have doused themselves with it before 9/11 in case they were caught or something went wrong and they may have had access to antibiotics for cures too. When you're willing to die in a plane crash, some sickness isn't going to bother you. Just because people who know bios or chems wouldn't disperse them in a certain way doesn't mean that terrorists wouldn't use them because their dispersal method wasn't "proper."

[Salamander]

Could they spread anthrax via the published papers somehow? ( Sorry for de-lurking with such a silly question ) :) Salamander

[LarryLied]

What is the relation of this building to the airport? The airport where they were checking out the cropduster was in Belle glade...maybe an hour away...perhaps a little more. Palm Beach International airport is within 30 minutes. Ft. Lauderdale not much further. Even a small outbreak would devestate South Florida. The owners of 25% of the world's wealth visit here in the winter. Lantana is minutes away from the Palm Beaches. An 80+ mile long strip of multi-million dollar mansions and $400,000 condos. Who wants to buy property for $25,000 an ocean front foot or stay in $1,000 a night hotels when anthrax is 15 minutes away? A couple dozen cases would wreck the economy here.