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The bimbo and the frat boy: The Coulter/Goldberg imbroglio
Enter Stage Right ^ | October 8, 2001 | Barton Wong

Posted on 10/07/2001 10:41:03 PM PDT by ouroboros

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To: Diddle E. Squat
Don't ask me. I just paid 2k for my sonyofmyowny and I don't want to be putin any bullet holes through it.
21 posted on 10/07/2001 11:16:37 PM PDT by mercy
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To: ouroboros
Is auto-fellatio a good nickname?

Ann Coulter is great person, and she is right.
22 posted on 10/07/2001 11:18:44 PM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: ouroboros
Now there are many explanations one could make for Coulter. She did write the article in a highly distraught state after all, but David Horowitz, who was the ultimate beneficiary of this whole affair, didn't exactly make them. Instead of going for the obvious excuse however, the best Horowitz could come up with was:

"As a Jew, I could be uneasy at Ann's suggestion that mass conversion to Christianity should be wielded as a tool of foreign policy were it not so obvious that her comment was hyperbolic, tongue firmly in cheek."

Anyone who knows Ann would say the exact same thing as Horowitz.

23 posted on 10/07/2001 11:18:57 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: ouroboros
But now that the Right is in power, the attack dogs are far less useful, even embarrassing to have along.

The right only thinks it is in power..actually the middle is in control..not polite to say while we are in a war..but daddy bush fought a war too...and he was definately a middle.

My guess is the middle doesnt want to have a right wing dog on its heels

24 posted on 10/07/2001 11:20:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: x
 The one's who looked on and wrote
since they didn't have other talents or
accomplishments.

Entertaining news analysis is a
talent and an accomplishment.
We can't all be laborers.

25 posted on 10/07/2001 11:21:23 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: onyx
Ann has would-be media personalities green with envy on the left and the right. She possesses a dynamic combination of intelligence, wit, credentials, striking good looks and she's can think on her feet fast enough to dismantel liberals 3 and 4 at a time.

Her detracters on the left, most of whom she's made look embarrassingly stupid and uninformed, along with her competitors on the right for the dollars associated with being a popular conservative voice have been waiting for her to slip. They'll even go as far as manufacturing her slip.

They're wrong about there being a 50/50 split of opinion about her on FR over this comment. On the threads I've seen it's 99/1 for Ann. This is totally wishful thinking on this weasel's part.

Ann's going to have her own incredibly successful show long before most of these turkeys that are piling on at the present time.

Go Ann Go!

26 posted on 10/07/2001 11:39:48 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: beckett
Despite what her many defenders on FR may think Coulter was never much of a "pundit", only
a fair writer (and that is generous), with not very much good sense or maturity.

Thanks for clearing that up, genius.

Her career is toast.
LOFL !!!

27 posted on 10/07/2001 11:56:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Even Justin Raimondo was able to thrash Jonah in debate. If it weren't for Mommy, where would he be?
28 posted on 10/08/2001 12:03:36 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: gcruse
Every society needs its entertainers, but I'd say it's better to put in an honest day's work for an honest wage than make a fortune playing the buffoon. There's a lot more to be said for being hardworking and productive than for being an exhibitionist, and it might do us good sometimes to give thanks to anonymous achievers, rather than showboats.

A first-rate humorist or news analyst has some value. A derivative and desperate humorist or a self-centered, volatile or neurotic analyst is worth less. Granted some people do look on more than participate, and some are natural entertainers, but I think Jonah spends more time sliding by, than developing his talents, and the same is true for Anne. Whatever value we put on the kind of work they do, they both seem to have gotten far on who they know and the noise they make.

29 posted on 10/08/2001 12:08:20 AM PDT by x
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To: mercy
"When conservatives try to be "hip," its just painful to watch."


Crap, I guess I better just give up!

30 posted on 10/08/2001 12:13:54 AM PDT by fish70
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To: evolved_rage
Barton Wong doesn't have one. While historical Americans like Coulter were building this country, Wong's ancestors were in opium dens practicing their highly complex 5000 year old culture.

Might I guess what your inbred ancestors were doing? Possibly attemping to make it down from the trees?

Perhaps in a few thousand years your rage may evolve further than the primordial slime you currently exhibit.

31 posted on 10/08/2001 12:19:18 AM PDT by jrherreid
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To: fish70
I feel your pain.
32 posted on 10/08/2001 12:33:57 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: clintonh8r
"I mean a photo with LEGS, people!"

Any photo?

Any legs?


33 posted on 10/08/2001 12:39:51 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Roscoe
Even Justin Raimondo was able to thrash Jonah in debate. If it weren't for Mommy, where would he be?

Well, his mother no doubt helped him with her connections, but Jonah is an excellent writer, in my opinion. He makes his points well, with passion and wit. I think he and Ann have a very similar style. Very similar. I thoroughly enjoy reading both of them.

By the way, how stupid does somebody have to be to think that Ann Coulter actually believes we should "invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." People either understand that Coulter was deliberately being facetious, with tongue in cheek, or they are frighteningly stupid. And nobody is that stupid. So.... the only people who could be critical of Ann for her column are those whose sensitivities were assaulted. And people whose sensitivities are assaulted by deliberate, tongue in cheek commentary are the clowns of political correctness. And they ain't too bright either.

34 posted on 10/08/2001 12:51:33 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: connectthedots
"As a Jew, I could be uneasy at Ann's suggestion that mass conversion to Christianity should be wielded as a tool of foreign policy were it not so obvious that her comment was hyperbolic, tongue firmly in cheek."

I remember the last time I saw her on P.I. she drove George Wendt nuts by suggesting that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. He was flabbergasted, thinking that she was dead serious. But there is a big difference between saying something like that -- which will never happen -- and saying "kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity," which many view as a viable option (despite the fact that such an action would be un-American in spirit and has proved ineffective throughout history).

Before that column was released, she made the very same statement to KSFO's Brian Wilson, and this time, I was the flabbergasted one. She was angry. She didn't sound like she was joking. I turned off the radio. I couldn't believe I heard a writer I admired say something like that.

There are some things that decent people shouldn't joke about, and if they choose to take the risk and do so anyway, they have only themselves to blame when they are misunderstood and judged to be hateful.

35 posted on 10/08/2001 12:52:09 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: Roscoe
Even Justin Raimondo was able to thrash Jonah in debate.

Really? I am sorry I missed that. I have only seen Raimondo on a TV debate once (moderated by NPR's Emil Guillermo), and he embarrassed himself. It was a debate about the spate of school shootings a couple of years back, and by the end of the show, Guillermo and all the panelists were asking why Raimondo couldn't tell them why only white male teens were perpetrators of the shootings.

36 posted on 10/08/2001 12:58:37 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: ouroboros
I didn't even get have way through that silly flapdoodle. This chick has nothing better to do? Broad needs to get laid.
37 posted on 10/08/2001 1:12:59 AM PDT by MissouriRepublican
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To: ouroboros
Reading the replies, I can only say I, too, disagree with everything the author says. Especially the preposterous flattery that Jonah Goldberg is in Coulter's class as a writer. Ann Coulter wrote a brilliant article that focused on the unforgivable loses we incurred in the attacks. Something very few commentators have been willing to do. And although she was obviously joking, Coulter was right that until these desparately depressed Muslims convert to a world view that gives them a reason to live, they will continue to target unarmed civilians to attain their dubious salvation. As Jamie Glazov, the child of Russian dissidents often says: I spit on them!
38 posted on 10/08/2001 1:15:02 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: L.N. Smithee
Thanks, L.N. Smithee and evolved_rage ...
As for "Barton Wong doesn't have one. While historical Americans like Coulter were building this country, Wong's ancestors were in opium dens practicing their highly complex 5000 year old culture." (written by 'ouroboros')
  It's sure sad when some conservatives or Republicans live up to the redneck standard. That opium was brought by the Brits, twice, the first time it didn't "take"... They knew what they were doing. And it was relatively recent, not 5,000 years old, though the first few thousand years were fairly advanced relative to the western world.

  Unbelievable, to see an actual racist comment like this over mere disagreement with a writer's take on a controversial incident. Is that all it takes. Do you feel good now?

39 posted on 10/08/2001 1:15:04 AM PDT by Anne Chin
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To: ouroboros
Quote of the Day by JohnHuang2
40 posted on 10/08/2001 3:43:15 AM PDT by RJayneJ
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