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To: fortitude
I went to Catechism FOREVER, was baptized, raised and confirmed in the CC, and nowhere can I recall any teaching that the final battle is as you stated below:

There is no doubt in my mind that we are living the final days and that the battle between our Lady and Satan is upon us.

I left the Catholic church and now attend a non-denominational Christian church (if it ain't in the bible, we don't do it). There, we are encouraged to read the Word of God. As an avid reader (and yes, I checked my Catholic bible as well) I can find no mention anywhere of such a battle. Can you inform me of this exact piece of prophecy?

77 posted on 10/07/2001 6:26:09 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
I can't relay the story of the Battle of Laponto any better than Father Moderator of Tradio.com: He states:

Today is October 7. It is the day on which Christians commemorate the military victory that saved Europe from being overrun by the Mohammedans (otherwise known as Muslims or Islamics). The historic sea battle of October 7, 1571, took place off Lepanto in the Gulf of Corinth in southern Greece.

Some background. Islam arose in the eighth century at Mecca in Arabia after one Mohammed had a mystical vision, allegedly of the Archangel Gabriel. His new sect advanced westward by terrorism through the Christian lands of Egypt, Libya, and what is today called Algeria and Morocco. Today, hardly a single Christian has survived in these countries. While we (including the pope at the Vatican) allow Muslims to build mosques, the Muslims do not allow Christians to build churches.

That is why it is said that Islam is not so much a religion of the word as a religion of the sword. The practice of the militant Muslims was to cut off the heads of their victims. Ask the people of Mindinao in the Philippines whether they do this. Or the people of Kosovo after the "ethnic Albanian" invasion.

A hundred years after Mohammed's vision, the followers of Islam had conquered Spain and were pouring into France. Their advance was repelled at the Battle of Poitiers in year 732 by French Christian forces led by Charles Martel, father of the Holy Roman Emperor, Charlemagne. The Spanish tried again and again to be rid of this scourge. But they did not manage to drive them out for eight hundred long years. Back in the east, the crescent swept northwards, consuming in blood, fire and sword the Holy Land, Syria, and Persia. Once fertile lands were turned into deserts by these uncivilized nomads and their constant fighting.

With the Turko-Mongol invasions of the 13th century, the inhabitants of the Middle East became subject to a new people. The Turks adopted Islam. Nearly all Muslims of the Middle East today are either of Turkish descent or descendants of the original Christian inhabitants who renounced their faith when confronted with the persuasive power of the sword. The political center of the Muslim Empire had shifted from Arabia to Turkey.

Under Ozman, the Turks took up the Arab's holy war against Christianity, advancing on Byzantium, or Constantinople, capital of the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire. By the time of Murad I, the Byzantine Empire had been reduced to the lonely city of Constantinople. Millions of Christians were dead, and millions of others had been compelled to convert to Islam. In 1453 Constantinople finally fell to the Muslims.

Pope Pius V called on the monarchs of Europe to join in the urgent defence of Christendom. The action that was to follow was the biggest naval engagement anywhere on the globe since Octavian defeated Marc Antony in the Battle of Actium in 30 B.C. Propelled by a favourable wind, the Muslim ships advanced in crescent moon formation in the Bay of Lepanto. The Christian admiral, Don Juan, knelt in prayer. Suddenly the wind changed. The two fleets charged, firing their cannon, and, coming alongside, the men met in hand-to-hand combat. The Muslim admiral, Ali Pasha, was killed. The Crusaders had won. 8,000 Europeans had been killed and 25,000 Turks. 15,000 Christian slaves who had been rowing in the Turkish galleys were liberated.

At that moment Pope Pius V had a vision. He suddenly got up and went to the window, peered at the sky, and then turning to those present, announced, "This is not the time for doing business. Let us return thanks to God. Our armada has even now defeated the Turkish fleet." The people of Rome had prayed the prayer of the Rosary in vigil throughout the eve of the battle and into the day.

The feastday of 7 October is honored as a victory accomplished by the prayerful intercession of Our Lady on behalf of her children, Mary Help of Christians, Our Lady of Victories. Catholics now call this day the feastday of Our Lady Of the Most Holy Rosary. It was a sad and ominous day, January 29, 1965, when Pope Paul VI handed the glorious standard of Lepanto, snatched in a daring attack from the Turkish flagship, back to the Turks. This is not scripture, it is history.

Please, if you can remember from your Catholic schooling how to recite the Rosary, do so this month, the month of the Holy Rosary. I firmly beleive that it will be through the intercession of the Blessed Mother that peace will ultimately come to this world. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An Easy Answer From

85 posted on 10/07/2001 6:40:14 PM PDT by fortitude
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
I find it curious that Joseph Smith (who started the Mormon religion) claimed to have been visited by an angel just like Mohammed claimed.

Thank God that the Book of Mormon was actually a novel (stolen by Joseph Smith's buddy who worked as an apprentice in a print shop) written by a retired Methodist minister!

IMHO, the Moslem religion is just as big a hoax as the Mormon religion. Difference is that one is very deadly and the other is not.

90 posted on 10/07/2001 6:47:32 PM PDT by smolensk
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