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To: Unbeliever
Perhaps you would like an opportunity to explain the enormous disconnect between your man made heretical belief in Sola Scriptura and the Biblical mandate of Scripture AND Tradition...
325 posted on 10/21/2001 5:47:02 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
Perhaps you would like an opportunity to explain the enormous disconnect between your man made heretical belief in Sola Scriptura and the Biblical mandate of Scripture AND Tradition...

The "tradition" you bleat about was created by misguided humans who said to themselves "What God has done is ok, but we will improve upon Gods' work and get to God OUR way not His."

Matthew 15:1 Some Pharisees and teachers of religious law now arrived from Jerusalem to interview Jesus.
Matthew 15:2 “Why do your disciples disobey our age-old traditions?” they demanded. “They ignore our tradition of ceremonial hand washing before they eat.”
Matthew 15:3 Jesus replied, “And why do you, by your traditions, violate the direct commandments of God?
Matthew 15:4 For instance, God says, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and ‘Anyone who speaks evil of father or mother must be put to death.’
Matthew 15:5 But you say, ‘You don’t need to honor your parents by caring for their needs if you give the money to God instead.’
Matthew 15:6 And so, by your own tradition, you nullify the direct commandment of God.
Matthew 15:7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was prophesying about you when he said,
Matthew 15:8 ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far away.
Matthew 15:9 Their worship is a farce, for they replace God’s commands with their own man-made teachings.’”
Matthew 15:10 Then Jesus called to the crowds and said, “Listen to what I say and try to understand.
Matthew 15:11 You are not defiled by what you eat; you are defiled by what you say and do.”
Matthew 15:12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you realize you offended the Pharisees by what you just said?”
Matthew 15:13 Jesus replied, “Every plant not planted by my heavenly Father will be rooted up,
Matthew 15:14 so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch.”
Matthew 15:15 Then Peter asked Jesus, “Explain what you meant when you said people aren’t defiled by what they eat.”
Matthew 15:16 “Don’t you understand?” Jesus asked him.
Matthew 15:17 “Anything you eat passes through the stomach and then goes out of the body.
Matthew 15:18 But evil words come from an evil heart and defile the person who says them.
Matthew 15:19 For from the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, all other sexual immorality, theft, lying, and slander.
Matthew 15:20 These are what defile you. Eating with unwashed hands could never defile you and make you unacceptable to God!”


Mark7:1 One day some Pharisees and teachers of religious law arrived from Jerusalem to confront Jesus.
Mark7:2 They noticed that some of Jesus’ disciples failed to follow the usual Jewish ritual of hand washing before eating.
Mark7:3 (The Jews, especially the Pharisees, do not eat until they have poured water over their cupped hands, as required by their ancient traditions.
Mark7:4 Similarly, they eat nothing bought from the market unless they have immersed their hands in water. This is but one of many traditions they have clung to—such as their ceremony of washing cups, pitchers, and kettles.)
Mark7:5 So the Pharisees and teachers of religious law asked him, “Why don’t your disciples follow our age-old customs? For they eat without first performing the hand-washing ceremony.”
Mark7:6 Jesus replied, “You hypocrites! Isaiah was prophesying about you when he said,
Mark7:7 ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far away. Their worship is a farce, for they replace God’s commands with their own man-made teachings.’
Mark7:8 or you ignore God’s specific laws and substitute your own traditions.”
Mark7:9 Then he said, “You reject God’s laws in order to hold on to your own traditions.
Mark7:10 For instance, Moses gave you this law from God: ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and ‘Anyone who speaks evil of father or mother must be put to death.’
Mark7:11 But you say it is all right for people to say to their parents, ‘sorry, I can’t help you. For I have vowed to give to God what I could have given to you.’
Mark7:12 You let them disregard their needy parents.
Mark7:13 As such, you break the law of God in order to protect your own tradition. And this is only one example. There are many, many others.”
Mark7:14 Then Jesus called to the crowd to come and hear. “All of you listen,” he said, “and try to understand.
Mark7:15 You are not defiled by what you eat; you are defiled by what you say and do!”
Mark7:16 Anyone who is willing to hear should listen and understand. Mark7:17 Then Jesus went into a house to get away from the crowds, and his disciples asked him what he meant by the statement he had made.

Mark7:18 “Don’t you understand either?” he asked. “Can’t you see that what you eat won’t defile you?
Mark7:19 Food doesn’t come in contact with your heart, but only passes through the stomach and then comes out again.” (By saying this, he showed that every kind of food is acceptable.)
Mark7:20 And then he added, “It is the thought-life that defiles you.
Mark7:21 For from within, out of a person’s heart, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder,
Mark7:22 adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, eagerness for lustful pleasure, envy, slander, pride, and foolishness.
Mark7:23 All these vile things come from within; they are what defile you and make you unacceptable to God.”

COLOSSIANS 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

I PETER 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, [as] silver and gold, from your vain conversation [received] by tradition from your fathers;

The Bible is clear about your "tradition".

330 posted on 10/22/2001 9:45:10 AM PDT by Unbeliever
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To: proud2bRC
Perhaps you would like an opportunity to explain the enormous disconnect between your man made heretical belief in Sola Scriptura and the Biblical mandate of Scripture AND Tradition...

Still waiting for a response...
Also you might ponder:

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

332 posted on 10/28/2001 10:52:11 AM PST by Unbeliever
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