[smorgle]

It never ceases to amaze me how a person can come along and think that his ideas outweigh the understandings of thousands of learned, prayerful, holy people over two milleniums. What incredible arrogance! And there's another problem. Throughout history, thousands of Catholics have been venerated for their heroic virtue, loving service to their fellow man, and unshakable faith. Catholics died defending the truth of Christianity. So what are they, flukes? They were good people but that had nothing to do with their faith? They were bad people who would even die to look good? Give me a break. No real experience of God is defensible because it's ultimately known from the inside, by faith, not by arguments and proofs. You think Catholicism is indefensible? Maybe there's hope for you yet.

[Unbeliever]

It never ceases to amaze me how a person can come along and think that his ideas outweigh the understandings of thousands of learned, prayerful, holy people over two milleniums. What incredible arrogance! And there's another problem. Throughout history, thousands of Catholics have been venerated for their heroic virtue, loving service to their fellow man, and unshakable faith. Catholics died defending the truth of Christianity. So what are they, flukes? They were good people but that had nothing to do with their faith? They were bad people who would even die to look good? Give me a break. No real experience of God is defensible because it's ultimately known from the inside, by faith, not by arguments and proofs. You think Catholicism is indefensible? Maybe there's hope for you yet

Guess you'll want to venerate the terrorists on Sept. 11th because they also died for their man made "faith" too.