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China Moves Forces into Afghanistan
DEBKA ^ | Oct. 6, 2001 | debka

Posted on 10/07/2001 7:16:11 AM PDT by aaaDOC

China Moves Forces into Afghanistan
6 October:

Before even the launching of the major US military offensive in Afghanistan, long Chinese convoys were carrying armed Chinese Muslim servicemen through northwest China into Afghanistan, according to DEBKAfile's intelligence experts.

They were sent in to fight alongside the ruling Taliban and Osama Bin Laden Al Qaeda.  Their number is estimated roughly between 5000 and 15,000.  Our sources report another three convoys are behind the first 3000, who crossed the frontier Friday, October 5.

They are entering Afghanistan along the ancient Krakoram Road to the Afghan-Pakistani border, through the Kulik Pass of Little Pamir, which is situated in one of the highest and most remote regions of the world.

Beijing is deploying this force in two places:

A.  Whakyir, the Kirgyz tribal encampment near the Little Pamir-Tadjik frontier, opposite the swelling concentration of US and Russian Special Forces and air strength

The Chinese have brought with them Kirgyz fundamentalist militants from the Ferghana Valley of Central Asia, as interpreters.

From Whakyir, the Chinese generals believe, with Bin Laden and the Taliban's tacticians, they will be able to block off the movement of the US-led force from its rallying point in Dzhartygumbez, Tadjikistan, no more than 35 miles from Little Pamir, into the mountains of Hindu Kush.

B.  Jalalabad in north Afghanistan, at the foot of the Hindu Kush range.

DEBKAfile's Chinese sources reveal that, immediately after the terrorist strikes in the United States on September 11, the Chinese intelligence service, MSS, handed in to the defense ministry in Beijing their estimation that the United States would go to war to overthrow the Taliban regime, for the sake of which it would sign a pact with Russia.  The Chinese leadership viewed this eventuality as the most significant shift in the global balance since the 1962 Chinese-Russian feud, with dangerous implications for China world standing and its interests in Central and Southwest Asia.  They decided it must be counteracted.

The only satisfactory outcome of the Bin Laden crisis in Chinese eyes is the redeployment of Japanese-based US troops to the Persian Gulf, when the Kitty Hawk carrier moved the 3rd Marines Division out of Okinawa last week.

Chinese intelligence did not miss the absence of fighters and reconnaissance craft on her decks.  The planes stayed behind, but the very fact that the Kitty Hawk is no longer within operational range of the Straits of Taiwan leaves the disputed island with diminished protection.

Beijing also took note of additional US military movements, including the Army's 10th Mountain Division based at Fort Drum, New York and that of another formerly Pacific-based unit, the 25th Infantry Division, out of Hawaii to the Persian Gulf.

According to DEBKAfile's Far East experts, the removal of substantial US military strength from the Pacific Rim opened the way for Chinese intervention in Afghanistan and its effort to slow down the US-Russian advance.
 


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To: aaaDOC
"DEBKAfile" is about as cedible as the "Lovenstein Institute".
21 posted on 10/07/2001 8:30:43 AM PDT by ChadGore
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To: Star Traveler
The rest of the LIARS here about Debka are really anti-semites, because they don't like that the person who is behind this is an Israeli and has "Israeli intelligence connections".

Way too broad. I for one am pro-Israel, NOT anti-semite, and very unimpressed with DEBKA's track record.

22 posted on 10/07/2001 8:36:56 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Star Traveler
The anti-semites aside, Israel is a virtual labyrinth of convoluted factions, within factions. Ten Jews will yield at least 100 opinions on any one subject, all with valid logic to substantiate their positions. I should appreciate a filter, perhaps a 'Fox News' to clarify & sort the many factions. Really.
23 posted on 10/07/2001 8:47:55 AM PDT by TEXICAN II
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To: American Soldier
Pardon my ignorance, but what is wrong with debka?
25 posted on 10/07/2001 8:50:19 AM PDT by MistrX
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To: HKUSP9mm
Ireland has moved 6,000 Leprechaun shock troops into Osama Bin Laden's shorts.

Now that you mention it ...

26 posted on 10/07/2001 8:54:05 AM PDT by dighton
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To: MistrX

Pardon my ignorance, but what is wrong with debka?

Don't you know?!! According to the anti-semites, it's run by a couple of "teenagers" (their consistent lie that they never back up, with facts to the contrary) -- and it's never right (in the face of repeated "inside" and "right" information [from Israeli inteligence sources]).

Why aren't you "on board" with anti-semitism? :-)

27 posted on 10/07/2001 9:08:49 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: KevinDavis
Where does Debka get their information?

They follow the same formula used by many of the folks around here.

Place a desire to say something, with a lack of anything to say, into a large mixing bowl.
Add a very large scoop of fantasy, and stir in equal amounts of paranoia and conspiracy.
Place the entire mixture into a pre-heated oven.
Monitor closely and remove from the oven when it's only half baked.

28 posted on 10/07/2001 9:26:46 AM PDT by been_lurking
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To: Star Traveler
Spare us the anti-semitic b.s. Debka, while interesting, has been very unreliable. Check last month's comments about Iraq moving divisions of troops through Jordan and Syria to Israel and an air war being waged against them. It turned out to be total nonsense.
29 posted on 10/07/2001 9:59:18 AM PDT by Ranger
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To: Ranger

Spare us the anti-semitic b.s. Debka, while interesting, has been very unreliable. Check last month's comments about Iraq moving divisions of troops through Jordan and Syria to Israel and an air war being waged against them. It turned out to be total nonsense.

It didn't turn out to be total nonsense. Iraq has been seeking to do that for a long while. They made another incursion with several divisions, earlier (back in February, I believe [spoken about from a guy name Missler]) -- in which they were almost nuked by Israel (until they withdrew). Iraq was seeking to go through Syria to get to Israel. This is a continuation of what they tried earlier.

In this present instance, when the U.S. was asked about it, there was a "no comment" on it. They simply were not going to comment on what was going on. There happens to be a lot (which you will find out later) which is true -- but which is not going to be acknowledge (outright) by administration sources -- as they try to keep this present campaign focused on "one thing at a time". It doesn't fit their "scheme" to comment on things having to do with Iraq, while they are working on Afghanistan. But it appears that Iraq will be next (in its own time).

You simply display an ignorance and an apparent bias against what is otherwise clearly the intention and action of Saddam Hussein to engage in. He's clearly demonstrated his willingness and ability to invade other countries and he's been at no shortage of words to say -- exactly -- that he is after Israel. And he's also had no shortage of words to say that he's going to "help his PA brothers". HA! to that...

The ignorant one here -- appears to be you.

30 posted on 10/07/2001 10:12:14 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: aaaDOC
China Moves Forces into Afghanistan

If so, somebody better go tell them they should leave, kinda dangerous on the ground now....(heh heh heh......)

31 posted on 10/07/2001 10:19:07 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: KevinDavis
DEBKA? ROTFLMAO!


32 posted on 10/07/2001 10:19:47 AM PDT by Clinton's a liar
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To: Star Traveler
When you examine DEBKA's BLATANT disinformational campaign, the ONLY beneficiary is Usama bin Laden. DEBKA is a radical Islamist propaganda site. Period.

Qui bono?

33 posted on 10/07/2001 10:21:33 AM PDT by Clinton's a liar
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To: aaaDOC
While I realize this "report" may be bunk.

If it isn't, I expect Dubya to live up to his words.

"With us or against us"

34 posted on 10/07/2001 10:24:13 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: aaaDOC
So if this is true, it is obvious that China has found a way to get rid of its Muslim soldiers. They'll let us kill them. Talk about brilliant! Remember, these guys wrote The Art of War.
35 posted on 10/07/2001 10:27:24 AM PDT by parsifal
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To: Clinton's a liar

When you examine DEBKA's BLATANT disinformational campaign, the ONLY beneficiary is Usama bin Laden. DEBKA is a radical Islamist propaganda site. Period.

HA!! Pretty funny. Are you using the "Joseph Goebbels method"? Tell a big enough lie so that more people will believe you?

ROTFL :-0 ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^

36 posted on 10/07/2001 10:29:09 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
blah, blah, blah. Spoken like a true liberal. When you can't answer the criticism, cry racism.

I doubt anyone cares where this was written or the ethnicity of who wrote it, they are STILL full of baloney.

37 posted on 10/07/2001 10:30:56 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: aaaDOC
If it's true, grind that column to a halt with B-52s.
38 posted on 10/07/2001 10:33:30 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Star Traveler
"Are you using the "Joseph Goebbels method"?"

That would be DEBKA's job. Do try to keep up.

39 posted on 10/07/2001 10:34:31 AM PDT by Clinton's a liar
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To: The KG9 Kid

If it's true, grind that column to a halt with B-52s.

I think they just ground to a halt!

40 posted on 10/07/2001 10:35:36 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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