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US may expel Briton widowed by bin Laden (A FREEPER CALL TO ARMS)
The Daily Telegraph ^ | October 7, 2001 | Charles Laurence

Posted on 10/07/2001 2:42:39 AM PDT by MadIvan

A BRITISH mother widowed by the World Trade Centre terrorism is being threatened with deportation from America as an illegal alien.

Deena Gilbey, 37, lost her husband, Paul, in the inferno of the south tower on September 11, and with him, according to the Immigration and Naturalisation Service, she lost her right to live in the United States.

The couple, from Southend-on Sea, Essex, had two sons, Maxwell, seven, and Mason, three, who were born in America and so are American citizens.

But Mrs Gilbey's legal status in the country was as a "dependent" on her husband's work visa, and since his visa expired on his death she is automatically declared illegal.

According to the immigration officers' rulebook, the boys can stay, but she must go. Just days after her husband's death she was sent an official notice warning her that her right to live in America was to be withdrawn.

Before receiving the letter, Mrs Gilbey had rung the immigration service to check on her status, only to be told: "You have none . . . regardless of the circumstances, you are an illegal alien."

"My husband was murdered in this country, his remains are still there somewhere at Ground Zero, and now the US government is killing us all over again," said a shocked Mrs Gilbey yesterday.

On Friday, the family was dealt another astonishing blow when a probate lawyer told Mrs Gilbey that, because she has no status as either a citizen or official Green Card immigrant, the Internal Revenue Service will take 60 per cent of her husband's life insurance in tax. If she had been American, she would pay no tax on her husband's estate.

It threatens her plans to stay in the house in Chatham Township in the green belt suburbs of New Jersey which the couple bought soon after coming to America eight years ago. After the taxman has taken 60 per cent, she would be unable to pay off the mortgage.

Mrs Gilbey said: "The little boys are traumatised and now they want to take our home from us. We did things properly, so if something happened to Paul I could bring up the kids in our own home, and now it is going to be impossible to do that. What are they thinking?"

The story has outraged the local community, however, and there is hope for the family in a campaign that is demanding that Washington confers instant citizenship on Mrs Gilbey, even if that means passing a law on Capitol Hill.

Chatham's police chief George Kurzenknabe has even promised that he "will barricade the house" if immigration officials dare to approach with a deportation warrant, while the chief of the suburb's volunteer fire brigade has offered to "sit on the porch with a rifle".

"I think we can say that, in these circumstances, the American people will simply not allow anyone, including our own government, to disturb or harass Mrs Gilbey in any way.

"This is a widow who is a beloved member of our community who has not transgressed in any way at all, and if the letter of the law is wrong, it is the letter of the law that will go," said Det Sgt George Petersen.

Mr Petersen has taken on the task of guiding Mrs Gilbey through the immigration maze, escorting her to meetings with INS officers. They discovered that the problem comes down to a delay in the couple's application for Green Card status - because the immigration service office in Newark, New Jersey, lost a sheaf of papers.

"But there is no provision in the law for any safeguard in a situation like this, and technically Mrs Gilbey has become an illegal alien. So the chief went to our local senators and made clear to them that he expects them to put a bill through Congress if that is what it takes," said Mr Petersen.

Last night, as America drew the blinds for the Columbus Day holiday weekend, it was unclear whether Senators Bob Torricelli and Jon Corzine of New Jersey were writing a bill for citizenship for Mrs Gilbey and any other affected widow, or whether it was a bill simply to delay deportation and allow an "illegal alien" to stay while legal processes are exhausted. Technically, Mrs Gilbey could be arrested and held in an INS detention centre.

"The people here are absolutely wonderful, but the government is another story," said Mrs Gilbey. Her family and friends have come up with another solution: they are calling for Mr Blair, the Prime Minister, to intervene directly with President Bush.

"Mr Blair and us Brits have stepped up to the plate for America, and now it is time for the President to step up to the plate for a Brit who is in a terrible position for no fault of her own," said Mrs Gilbey's mother, Mrs Berrynice Gould, who has flown to New Jersey to support her daughter.

The Gilbeys came to New York when Mr Gilbey, who was 39, was transferred to Wall Street by the London brokerage he worked for. That company began the routine paperwork of sponsoring the Gilbeys for a Green Card, or "permanent resident alien" status.

But after a year, Mr Gilbey transferred to a new job with EuroBrokers, which meant that the Green Card application had to be restarted from scratch.

The new job took him to offices on the 84th floor of the south tower of the World Trade Centre, and he was at work when the first jet struck the north tower. He telephoned Mrs Gilbey, told her that he was safe and she urged him to "go, go, go".

He had started to evacuate the tower before the second aircraft had struck and was told by security guards that there was no threat to their offices and to return to work.

"Survivors have told me that Paul made it to the 74th floor, where the lifts were still working. There, with a friend, he helped get women and people in wheelchairs into the lifts, holding back himself and other men. He insisted that women and children get to safety first: Paul did the right thing, and this is the reward for his family."

Mrs Gilbey believes that he must have returned to his office, where he would have taken a direct hit from the second aircraft.

"We were friends since I was 14 years old, and I am lucky to have had Paul for so long. And I know he is safe and at peace where he is. But I am heartbroken for the boys and I want to be able to give them hope. They look into my face for hope, and what they see is fear because of this."


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To: MadIvan
I don't mind the INS treating me like a criminal just because I am visiting the USA.

Don't worry. The INS treats taxpaying voters the same when they return to the U.S. You are not going to get decent, intelligent people taking jobs like that. You just are not.

121 posted on 10/07/2001 6:14:19 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: MadIvan
Bump for the Brits! The INS has a real knack for keeping high quality immigrants out and letting the criminal slime in. Brits and US citizenship should be dual.
122 posted on 10/07/2001 6:15:02 AM PDT by nagdt
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To: MadIvan
The part I like is where the two little boys are legal citizens, but their mother cannot stay. I mean these people are dumber than dirt.
123 posted on 10/07/2001 6:17:29 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: MadIvan
Cousin....

Mind not the nit-picking...Been reading your posts and as usual you are doing Winnie proud...

As Winnie would say, "Fear not, as all will come well".

You and your countrymen may rest assured that if INS should proceed in the wrong direction with this lady, there will be much hell to pay, starting at the top of the government, and at this time I think they do not want such an affair.

124 posted on 10/07/2001 6:17:30 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: MadIvan
The 60% levy on her death benefits is absolutely outrageous too. I will contact O'Reilly myself.
125 posted on 10/07/2001 6:19:08 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: RightOnline
like good little bureaucrats, what does the INS do in response? You got it: overreact, and like bad marksmen, they "shoot" at the easy targets. Lazy, mindless pricks.

The GS-7 with 8 years in grade mentality hoping to make it to GS-8 some day.

126 posted on 10/07/2001 6:23:35 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: lavaroise
>THe US is becoming notorious for harrassing people who do their homeworks and not looking for those who hide and never do it.<

It's called being lazy. They always go after the ones who obey the rules because they are easier to catch.

127 posted on 10/07/2001 6:27:22 AM PDT by Diva
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To: MadIvan
I am crying, now. My biggest fear is losing my husband and children. To tell these precious children whom have known no other home that they are getting kicked out of the country with 60% of their insurance money taken from them......this is just an atrocity.
128 posted on 10/07/2001 6:29:09 AM PDT by joathome
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To: AndyJackson
Andy....

Now I feel bad..I was a GS-6 once. Never got to kick anyone around though. Course that was bout 50 years ago.

129 posted on 10/07/2001 6:29:11 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: Gracey
my sister "great dane" is a freeper in canada. today is her birthday.
131 posted on 10/07/2001 6:30:33 AM PDT by liliana
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To: MadIvan
Thanks, Ivan! bttt!
132 posted on 10/07/2001 6:34:47 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: MadIvan
On Friday, the family was dealt another astonishing blow when a probate lawyer told Mrs Gilbey that, because she has no status as either a citizen or official Green Card immigrant, the Internal Revenue Service will take 60 per cent of her husband's life insurance in tax. If she had been American, she would pay no tax on her husband's estate.

I have zero problems with the INS deporting her. She has been here all this time with zero effort on her part to get her paperwork in order,or to apply for US citizenship. My ONLY question about this is why is it only white people the INS seems interested in deporting? If they are going to deport her,they need to deport all the thousands of illegal aliens from places like Mexico,Haiti,etc.

Having said all that,there is NO excuse for the bleeping IRS to stick their ugly noses under the tent. I do NOT buy her husbaband being some kind of "hero",but he WAS clearly a victim who died merely because he was working in a building targeted because it was a prominent American building. This automatically makes his wife and children victims too,and the IRS needs to back the hell OFF! I'll even go so far as to say some politicians should make it their business to insure whatever IRS bureaucrat who decided to go after her should be fired.

BTW,there IS a certain amount of "spin" going on here. If this woman had been all that concerned about staying in the US,she would have made DAMN SURE her papers were in order long before this. I'm thinking her biggest concern is (rightly) the financial hit she is taking from the IRS because of her legal status. She was probably planning on taking the insurance money and the money from the sale of the house to move back to England with her children. Face it,for a Englishwoman to be sent back to England isn't exactly punishment. It's not like she's being sent to the Sudan.

BTW-2,the nonsense of children of foreigners being born here automatically being citizens has GOT to stop!

133 posted on 10/07/2001 6:38:06 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: cynicom
Civil service is often little more than a public jobs program. Blame the Kennedy's and their ilk for the denegration of what it means to be in public service.
134 posted on 10/07/2001 6:38:28 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
"The GS-7 with 8 years in grade mentality hoping to make it to GS-8 some day."

Precisely...............and like any other entity lacking a spine, taking the path of least resistance at all times.

135 posted on 10/07/2001 6:38:30 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: borisbob69
This poor woman must be viewed as a Conservative by the mindless bureaucrats and therefore not entitled to some slack.

The reality is this woman has the twin disadvantages of being both white and a English speaker. This makes her the enemy of the pro-illegal immigrate forces. If she were from Haiti or Africa,not ONE word would have been uttered.

136 posted on 10/07/2001 6:40:49 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Common Tator
Bump for an appalling situation.
137 posted on 10/07/2001 6:40:52 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: MadIvan
The next time I visit America and they give me a hard time (running through the 120 questions about why I am visiting) I will remind them that they didn't care so much about Mohammed Atta.

Better not, Ivan. Remember, hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned.

138 posted on 10/07/2001 6:41:17 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: E.Allen
Can anyone think of a reason why this criminally incompetent organization should not be disbanded IMMEDIATELY?

Yes. We need time to fully identify the people in authority there so we can hang them.

139 posted on 10/07/2001 6:42:34 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: D Joyce
but what about children born here to a non-citizen mother, as i was when two of my children were born, and a citizen father. i think a child born here is an american. period.
140 posted on 10/07/2001 6:45:26 AM PDT by liliana
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