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Muslim blames US at Chicago's Largest Church (BARF)
10/06/01 | Dengar01

Posted on 10/06/2001 6:16:58 PM PDT by Dengar01

I just got home from church and I had to post this. I attended Willow Creek church which is north west of Chicago. It is the largest church in the area, it is a non-denominational Christian church, the main auditorium hold 10,000 people and was filled tonight. The topic of the 5:00 service tonight was the interview with a Muslim named Iama Fisal Hammounda, by Senior Pastor Bill Hybels. They will be having three more services between tonight and tomorrow, I pray to God they change their plans for the next services.

I knew this was going to get ugly when the church showed a video on ethnic diversity. I looked around at the church filled to capacity with over 10,000 people and noticed several Muslims.

The inteview started and the man was introduced as a Egyptian who moved here in 1974. He complained that his wife was in Florida and couldn't come home due to the fact that she would be harassed. The goal of Pastor Hybel's interview was to prove that Islam is a peaceful religion, lets just say that he failed, miserabley.

Pastor Hybels did ask some very good questions which surprised me since I thought the Muslim might take the questions as offensive. A few questions statements stood out. The Muslim declared that Islam was peaceful and that the terrorists did not follow Islam, fine I guess. He continued that a "Jihad" had to do with attacking sin he made the poor analogy of declaring a jihad on eating candy.

Continuing Pastor Hybels asked him about martyrs along with the virgins and the streams of wine and the Muslim responded I pray for that to happen. He was truly innappropriate and this is when everything went downhill.

He declared that the terrorists in the US were bad but that the Palestinians were "freedom fighters". Immediately after saying that all the Muslims attending applauded.

After the Muslims were jumping for joy with the Mr. Hammounda's innappropriate remarks, many people got up and walked out disgusted. I stayed to hear his next remarks which stunned me worse than his previous remarks.

He then stated that, "The US is responsible for terrorism"

That is when I walked out.

Fortunately for me to write this my sister and her husband stayed while I was complaining to several people at the Service Desk. The final statement which I was lucky enough to miss finished with Mr. Hammounda saying that Christians and Muslims can be friends, only on Muslims terms.

Yes you heard it the slime being spewed by the left is false. I heard it first hand from this man answering innappropriately while joking about a serious issue. I made the statement that this was unnacceptable for a church and should not be tolerated.

If you agree with me you can FReep the church at:
Willow Creek Community Church
67 E. Algonquin Road
South Barrington, IL 60010
(847) 765-5000
Fax: (847) 765-9222
General e-mail: info@willowcreek.org

Don't worry because the church had many people furious, about 200 people walked out including myself and many people were venting their frustration to people who work at the church. I will be calling the church tomorrow to let them know how I feel.


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1 posted on 10/06/2001 6:16:58 PM PDT by Dengar01
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Isn't this the same church that had Clinton come and talk about his "repentance?"
2 posted on 10/06/2001 6:19:29 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Yes I thought it was the place for me, boy I was wrong. I thought that they got over the Democrat, Liberal thing.
4 posted on 10/06/2001 6:22:51 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: Dengar01
Methinks you need to find another church.
5 posted on 10/06/2001 6:22:56 PM PDT by pubmom
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To: Dengar01
After the Muslims were jumping for joy

Thus proving that the expression, "Moderate Moslem" is an oxymoron.

6 posted on 10/06/2001 6:24:46 PM PDT by janus
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To: pubmom
Yes I am going to find one tomorrow, ASAP. I really didn't go there often, but it was big and my niece and nephew loved the Sunday school. But after tonight I won't step foot in there again.
7 posted on 10/06/2001 6:25:04 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: Dengar01
You need to contact Fox news and get this story reported. If anybody has a recording of this it needs to be on TV. Thanks for letting us know about this.
8 posted on 10/06/2001 6:25:32 PM PDT by ao98
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To: Dengar01
You should write to Bill O'Reilly at FOXSNEWS CHANNEL and have him bring that lousy ass pastor on 'the Factor'!!!

Caution: IT IS A NO SPIN ZONE and O'Reilly doesn't take prisoners!!

9 posted on 10/06/2001 6:26:07 PM PDT by Norb2569
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To: ao98
Actually they always video tape the services. Great idea I'll call FOX News now.
10 posted on 10/06/2001 6:26:36 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: Dengar01
finished with Mr. Hammounda saying that Christians and Muslims can be friends, only on Muslims terms.

Right! As their slaves and servants! Anyone who believes in the holiness of Mohammed is no different than a 'Moony' in my opinion, and Mohammed is no more prophet of God than Tun Sun Moon is.

12 posted on 10/06/2001 6:27:26 PM PDT by smolensk
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To: Dengar01
My "mini church" can beat your "mega church" any day.

Personally, my prayer has been, and will continue to be, "What are You saying, Lord?"

13 posted on 10/06/2001 6:28:10 PM PDT by mombonn
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Why would you want to attend a church of that nature unless you ar a masochist?
14 posted on 10/06/2001 6:28:49 PM PDT by RLK
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Palestinians "freedom fighters" showing their support for the United States

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15 posted on 10/06/2001 6:30:59 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Dengar01
Walk back in.This is your church.Everyone should have stood and escorted him to the door.
16 posted on 10/06/2001 6:31:08 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Norb2569
But occasionally Good Ole Bill does get eaten by someone else for lunch, which makes it Fun.

BTW where was JJ, I am sure he can find wheeling from the south side.

17 posted on 10/06/2001 6:31:38 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: Dengar01
That is when I walked out.

Now if you would have sprayed some Anthrax spores at him instead of walking out you would be considered a good canidate for conversion to islam!

18 posted on 10/06/2001 6:32:30 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: mdittmar
I don't mean to be mean but this church has lost it's way!The sooner people see the truth about Islam the better!
19 posted on 10/06/2001 6:32:56 PM PDT by califordubya
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To: Manny Festo
Yes, this flies totally against the 'war on terrorism of global reach' and against the 'you are for us or against us'. THis will obviously make us look like a paper tiger and those extremists already hate America for not letting them drive Israel into the sea. Powell's position is a no-win wrong position. Let's call people who train suicide bomber what they are - terrorists.
20 posted on 10/06/2001 6:34:45 PM PDT by WOSG
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