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Chinese soldiers in the Panama Canal! LIVE Webcam! - Thread 4
Webcam at Miraflores Locks ^ | Published: 24 hours Author: Panama Canal Authority

Posted on 10/06/2001 2:18:35 PM PDT by ChaseR

Let's all continue to discuss if Communist China has already - or will in the future, smuggle weapons, munitions, arms and short or medium-range missiles (or missile parts) into Panama??


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To: ChaseR
I believe we have wording in our treaty with Panama to go back in if any nation tries to use that place for military purposes.....That will be the next war... The Chinese tried to lease an old navy base in cal from the clinton Regime and almost succeeded... We can thank Jimmy ( Peanut Brain ) Carter for this mess.. These dempocrats really suck.
21 posted on 10/06/2001 4:56:03 PM PDT by chatham
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
China's illegal technology acquistiion was never mentioned during the public Senate hearing,
nor was China's proclitity to move arms and contraband into the Americas. This real China threat
is allowed to be spoken of only in secret intelligence reports, lest China be offended."
The China Threat
Bill Gertz
pg 89

Geopolitically, China sees its location in Panama as a place where it can establish a base of influence
in a small country, using political and commercial means, where it can work closely with its new ally Cuba to help those who oppose the United States in Latin America,
and where it might also be able to position weapons such as medium-range missiles
that potentially could be used to threaten the United States in times of crisis,
or times of the choosing of the Chinese regime."
The China Threat
Bill Gertz
pg. 93-94


22 posted on 10/06/2001 4:59:37 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: Roger_W_Isom
A terrorist attack is a possibility like any other strategic place. We in Panama have an idea how, where, and why it can take place; but those thoughts will stay with me.
23 posted on 10/06/2001 5:00:25 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Roger_W_Isom; Publius; backhoe; flamefront; Bigg Red; Kathleen; christine11; GretchenEE;
back at ya
24 posted on 10/06/2001 5:01:21 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: Roger_W_Isom
It isn't all that strategic anymore.

Aircraft carriers can't use it. Supertankers can't use it. Those are, respectively, the two most "strategic" military and commercial vessels to the US (of course, none of the supertankers are our own anymore.)

Doesn't matter that much if the escorts of a CVBG can use the canal if the carrier itself can't. And there's no war scenario the US could conceivably face where getting lots of ships through the canal would be critical to victory. The US Navy's bases are split between each coast, and even half the US Navy is 10 times more powerful than any conceivable combination of enemies we could face in either ocean.

The US economy would not be crippled by closure of the canal, and neither would the US Navy. Not that it would be a good thing; it's just not the ultimate world strategic chokepoint as the conspiracy nuts would like to believe.

25 posted on 10/06/2001 5:03:54 PM PDT by John H K
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To: ChaseR
she is a good conservative poster....she is just naive on the situation in Panama.

Naïve she’s not. Very bright and informed she is.

….and where it might also be able to position weapons such as medium-range missiles

Notice the word “might.”

26 posted on 10/06/2001 5:13:06 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: ChaseR
Homemade apple pie? Oh yummy. And you didn't save me a slice? For shame! And I still haven't gone to the kitchen to get dinner started. Shame on me!
28 posted on 10/06/2001 5:16:16 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Black Jade
Excellent post, Black Jade. Thank you.
29 posted on 10/06/2001 5:20:15 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: ChaseR
Okay, I really must get to the kitchen...and toss some frozen dinners in the Microwave.…No homemade apple pie (a tear runs down my eye), but there is chocolate ice cream and a chocolate cake to make up for the frozen (yeck!) dinners.
30 posted on 10/06/2001 5:31:40 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: ChaseR
LIVE Web cam.......


32 posted on 10/06/2001 5:33:04 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: ChaseR
This threads are very important and I truly feel the Pqnama Canal is going to play a huge part in world events in the future and the Chinese will make America very sorry this whole transfeer was ever done.
33 posted on 10/06/2001 5:36:02 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: ChaseR
Thank you ChaseR for all your hard work.
34 posted on 10/06/2001 5:36:41 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
There I am! standing on top of the left miter gate at Miraflores!
35 posted on 10/06/2001 5:41:51 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Snow Bunny
There I am! standing on top of the left miter gate at Miraflores!
36 posted on 10/06/2001 5:42:40 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Black Jade
None of these commercial agreements can override the Canal Treaty.

Let's hope this remains true. Thanks for your informative post.

37 posted on 10/06/2001 5:44:30 PM PDT by NCEaglette
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To: Snow Bunny
Sorry for the dang double post.
38 posted on 10/06/2001 5:44:46 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Black Jade
Actually I was mostly making a joke - though I think it was stupid as hell to hand over the canal. ANYWHERE there are Chinese citizens in command you can consider the place a Chinese military base. For example, suppose we were to go to war with China or Korea or Taiwan, and we had to pass ships through the Canal. If a Chinese citizen at any level failed to prevent our ships from passing through, do you have ANY IDEA what would happen to him if he EVER returned to the mainland? If he wasn't stoned to death by the mob he'd receive a bullet in the brainstem from the state, period.
39 posted on 10/06/2001 5:55:23 PM PDT by American Soldier
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I really, really have to go now...to the freezer and then to the microwave. Then the computer will be taken over by homework time (I'm told). Anyway, if I don't get back on tonight, I'll check in the first thing in the morning.

Stay safe.

40 posted on 10/06/2001 5:56:51 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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