The Importance of Israel

You straight out lied and I called you on it, your response is to call me a Jesus freak. Did you not know or did you purposely lie, and considering the circumstances how can your view be taken seriously?

You straight out lied Calm down, calm down. The heifer will be here soon and your buddies can kill it at the age of three, burn the lot with dung and a scarlet thread. And the temple will be rebuilt and Jesus will come again. And he'll be real pleased with you for playing such an important part in His return. (how could the Lord come if the cow wasn't the right colour! Oy! Martin Luther, you're not.) That'll make you feel much more important than the guy who couldn't quite make into Bob Jones University (what a challenge that must be) and then diluted his US birthright by swearing fealty to another power. You're a real case study in self-delusion.

So what did I lie about?

First you play 20 Questions. "Just what right to vote am I holding behind my back?" It's pretty easy to answer, even without checking your home page.

What, you want to see if I can spell Druze correctly? You want the percentage of christian arabs to moslem voters inside Isreal? You want an enumeration of the -- what is it? -- ten seats they get in the knesset? You want to see if I know the fine-print of Israeli election law?

That means you don't have to debate principle, just play trick questions.

I notice you don't address my real point: that the palestinians don't get to vote. Yet you DID get to vote. A useful idiot prepared to take up arms against people who never did you anything to you or yours gets to vote, and the folks whose ancestors lived there don't.

I don't know if it's self-righteousness or ignorant arrogance that is your best characteristic.

So what did I lie about it? Exactly. Refresh my memory. If recollection serves, you're the once who can't address the truth state on. You're the one who said in an earlier post: "Funny, I'm not Jewish and I got to vote. Go figure." But then you admit that joining the Army (and serving under a foreign flag) earned you citizenship of the JEWISH STATE. So you're the clintonesque, parse-every-word bullsh*t artist (whoops, sorry, red-heifer-sh*t aritist). And the amazing thing is, you think everyone is no brighter than you. Used car salesmen and televangelists love guys like you, Mr. I-won't kill-christians-at-easter, no matter what is in your country's best interests as defined by your superior officers. You're better than the funny pages -- and every bit as two-dimensional.

The only lies told here have been yours. And, you tell them mostly to yourself. At least you picked a gullible audience.

There was an interesting, civil thread going until you DenisW, Lent and the other shrieking harpies turned up flinging accusations of "anti-semitism" and Jew-hater around and insisting that the U.S. -- the country where you were born, for godsake -- is here mainly because God wanted Israel to have a dumb, muscular, rich big brother.

I wonder if you know the Yiddish word I'm thinking of to describe you? (You won't find a clue on my home page, either). Thanks for keeping up your end (however low) of this debate. You're a reminder to anyone who reads it just how intellectually bankrupt one side is. Just out of curiosity, was it Bob Jones who used to see the 800-foot Jesus?

Your lie was this:
"But for a democracy to enjoy the principled support of the U.S. and its taxpayers, don't you think it would be nice if everyone born there -- not just Jews -- had a right to vote?"

Only Jews in Israel can vote. No, I'm not Jewish and I can vote there. 20% of the Israeli population isn't Jewish and they can vote. Everyone born in Israel (Jewish or not) can vote. You lied, I'm calling you on it

As I said, Clintonesque (that means "like Clinton"). No more exchanges, please. It's too depressing.

How could you possibly come to that conclusion? Militant Islam is a desease that should be scoured from the earth. I just see modern-day Israel for what it is and don't find a lot to like about it.

Michael tell the whole truth. The Israeli immigration policy prohibiting the return of Palestinians or immigration of other non-Jews while recognizing the "right" of any Jew in the world to immigrate and have citizenship constructily negates the vote of non-Jews. They think they are so schmart......

What could you possibly know about duty, honor and courage? You are obviously one of the Israel Uber Alles crowd that is ready to fight Islam to the last American soldier! Israel is the political equivalent of a spoiled brat that hides behind its mother's skirts and taunts the neighborhood boys.