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To: SoothingDave
You wrote: Bible Christians will never see the Immaculate Conception in Scripture. Because it is not explicit, but requires synthesis and thought. What does Mary being "full of grace" really mean?

SD, I can't find that verse about Mary being full of grace. I've heard it, though. (Or I could be confusing it with the Hail Mary recitation.) I did a word search and did find where JESUS is said to be "full of grace" and Stephen (the deacon) to be "full of grace" (as well as other virtues).

46 posted on 10/06/2001 12:07:39 AM PDT by hopefulpilgrim
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To: hopefulpilgrim
SD, I can't find that verse about Mary being full of grace.

Pssst - it's only in their version... know what I mean. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean?

59 posted on 10/06/2001 4:13:16 AM PDT by the808bass
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To: hopefulpilgrim
158:#46
The term, "Hail,Full of Grace" is from the Gospel of Luke, Douay/Rheims translation . I don't know, for sure, but it might also be in KJV . Unfortunayely, after generations of people reciting that verse, the NAB translator/revisers saw fit to render it "Rejoice, o highly favored Daughter "
Of course, we uneducated masses called the verses "The Angelic Salutation" "Hail Mary , full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women and Blessed is the Fruit of thy womb, Jesus."(Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us, sinners now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.)
Notice that the first half of this prayer is totally Scriptural, from Luke, Chapter 2 .The second half is a request for intecessory prayer from the woman who induced Jesus to set up the second round of drinks at the wedding feast at Cana .(according to John)
64 posted on 10/06/2001 4:59:14 AM PDT by dadwags
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