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To: AndrewC
Interesting, if somewhat disquieting. I mean disquieting in the sense that I was taught that petitioning for any given "x" in prayer was a misuse of prayer. We pray for guidance and to accept God's will, do we not?

Anyway, I'm sure someone is out there somewhere attempting to replicate the experiment.

22 posted on 10/05/2001 12:54:21 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
We pray for guidance and to accept God's will, do we not?

That would be "lead us not into temptation", however prior to that Jesus taught us to pray for our daily bread.

23 posted on 10/05/2001 1:14:03 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Gumlegs
Interesting, if somewhat disquieting. I mean disquieting in the sense that I was taught that petitioning for any given "x" in prayer was a misuse of prayer. We pray for guidance and to accept God's will, do we not?

It seems obvious that it has nothing to do with any imagined God. It was the will of the women that wanted to get pregnant and the will of the people that prayed.

There has been numerous replication tests (blind and double blind) that validate remote viewing does work. I proved to myself that associative remote viewing does work. 

Prayer and/or religion had nothing to do with it. People of several denominations, atheists and agnostics alike are able to remote view.

I know remote healing is a "practice". I haven't looked at any test results to validate or refute its effectiveness. I have read a few discussions by people that do it. If you're interested here's a link to the discussion board. (Click the 'messages' link in the upper left sidebar.) You'll have to pose the questions. People on the forum will be able to provide information via their own experiences and links to more information. 

36 posted on 10/05/2001 3:38:05 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Gumlegs
Interesting, if somewhat disquieting. I mean disquieting in the sense that I was taught that petitioning for any given "x" in prayer was a misuse of prayer. We pray for guidance and to accept God's will, do we not?

This is what I never understood. It seems extremely egotistical to pray and tell God what he should do. If God is all knowing and all powerful, then he will do what is best regardless. Is he going to have a master plan that requires one thing to happen, then change his mind because some idiot prayed about it?

It seems like the most appropriate prayers are "Let thy will be done" or asking for wisdom. I agree, asking for a specific thing just seems wrong (although I do ask for help when I lose my car keys!)

42 posted on 10/07/2001 8:42:53 AM PDT by Godel
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