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Hijackers' Screams: Recorder Catches Last Moments of Flight Downed in PA
USA TODAY | Kevin Johnson and Alan Levin

Posted on 10/05/2001 7:04:17 AM PDT by truther

Recorder captures passengers' fight with hijackers Shouts and screams can be heard in cockpit before jet crashed into field in Pennsylvania

WASHINGTON -- Cockpit voice recordings from United Airlines Flight 93 indicate that the hijacked jet's passengers attacked their captors and fought their way into the cockpit before the jet went down, according to data obtained Wednesday.

The account is based on an ongoing analysis of the cockpit voice recorder. It illustrates the passengers' heroic efforts to fight off the four terrorists who had commandeered the jet Sept. 11 on an apparent suicide mission to Washington.

The digital recording, according to officials with knowledge of its contents, picks up sounds of people shouting and screaming in the cabin and cockpit shortly before the crash. A high level of background noise has made it difficult for investigators to interpret exactly what was being said or done.

Also unclear is who was at the controls of the jet -- the hijackers or the passengers -- when it slammed into a field in Pennsylvania, killing all 44 aboard. A preliminary review of the flight data recorder indicated the jet turned on its back and flew straight into the ground, sources said.

An FBI official testified Wednesday that the tape proved what many suspected.

"I can confirm that the passengers engaged in a fight for their lives with their four hijackers and most likely saved the lives of unknown individuals on the ground," J.T. Caruso, deputy assistant FBI director for counterterrorism, said in testimony before a House intelligence subcommittee.

Three other teams of hijackers led attacks that day on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Several passengers aboard Flight 93 learned of the other hijackings via cellphone calls and knew that they had ended in suicide crashes.

Authorities have asked outside experts to analyze the recorder a second time for further details. The use of filters and other computer analysis of cockpit voice recorders is common after an accident.

The recorder is a modern digital model and produced a high-quality record of the last 30 minutes of the flight.

Voice recorders store sounds from microphones that pilots wear on their headsets and from a microphone embedded in the cockpit wall. Normally, it is easy to determine who is speaking on a recording because the voice can be linked to a specific headset. But sounds on the Flight 93 recording came primarily from the cockpit wall microphone, making it more difficult to decipher.

Investigators also are examining a tape of short radio broadcasts from the jet, apparently at the time hijackers took control of the cockpit. Sources who have heard the tape say it recorded a violent struggle.

Flight 93 was headed from Newark, N.J., to San Francisco when it was hijacked. Because the jet crashed more than 30 minutes after the hijacking, the recording did not capture the takeover of the cockpit.


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To: csvset
One of the flight attendants mentioned she was heating some water.This is the first I've heard of this. If true, can anyone please provide more information? Thanks.
21 posted on 10/05/2001 8:48:41 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Liberty..you are brilliant(couldn't spell genius) that should be a Freeper poster theme or bumper sticker and just like you wrote it too...good on ya !!!!!!!
22 posted on 10/05/2001 8:48:51 AM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: csvset
One of the flight attendants mentioned she was heating some water.

This is the first I've heard of this. If true, can anyone please provide more information? Thanks.

23 posted on 10/05/2001 8:49:16 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: truther
Murderous idiot hijackers screaming Allah Akbar as the plane punched a hole in the ground.
24 posted on 10/05/2001 8:49:55 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Grampa Dave, Jeff Head
Bump

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25 posted on 10/05/2001 8:55:21 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: jerod
The place where that plane crashed should become hollowed ground.

I am sure that that ground at the impact point has already been 'hollowed'. Perhaps you mean 'hallowed'?

26 posted on 10/05/2001 8:57:05 AM PDT by Bitman
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To: Diamond; truther
One small comfort is that I think the hijackers were screaming in agony because they had boiling hot water thrown in their faces by the minutemen and women passengers

I sure hope this is true, but I must point out that nowhere in the article (unless I missed something) does it say that the hijackers themselves could be heard to be screaming.

Just says "people" were screaming. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

27 posted on 10/05/2001 8:59:33 AM PDT by gumbo
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To: RasterMaster
I hope that the next time I fly, I have some people such as these on board!

Are you going to be asleep?

28 posted on 10/05/2001 9:00:01 AM PDT by RWG
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To: Mean Maryjean
Read an article in the Orlando Sentinel about CeeCee(last name?), one of the flight attendants on board. She was a former cop who called her husband to tell him about the hijacking and that they were going to do something and to say goodbye to her 2 children. Her family believes that she was about to do something. As a former flight attendant myself, I can tell you that a defensive move we wwere trained for was to pour hot tea or coffee on that person. Maybe CeeCee did some damage!
29 posted on 10/05/2001 9:00:18 AM PDT by Arabesque
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To: truther
Hallowing the ground would be good. However, on this forum board where all of you are into property rights and keeping amendments it MAY NOT be kind to steal someone's property just because a plane crashed on it and turn it into a cemetery.
30 posted on 10/05/2001 9:03:13 AM PDT by madison10
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To: csvset
I'd bet those SOB's get a pot of boiling water poured on 'em.

Knowing our illustrious congress, they are even now crafting a bill to ban coffee pots on commercial flights. Surely a pot of boiling water is more dangerous than a fingernail clipper.

31 posted on 10/05/2001 9:03:18 AM PDT by piasa
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To: bond7
May the hijackers be screaming in hell.

They are!

32 posted on 10/05/2001 9:05:14 AM PDT by GluteusMax
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To: RasterMaster
I hope that the next time I fly, I have some people such as these on board! Their courage in the face of danger will always be remembered.

You will, they have a name they are called Americans.

33 posted on 10/05/2001 9:06:51 AM PDT by cpdiii
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To: truther
I'm thinking it is very fortunate that the man who apparently was to be the fifth hijacker was arrested on an immigration violation shortly before the 11th, as a fifth hijacker would have made it more difficult for the passengers to prevail, especially since there were fewer passengers on that flight.

Because the jet crashed more than 30 minutes after the hijacking, the recording did not capture the takeover of the cockpit.

How expensive or problematic can it be to put more than 30 minutes of tape in those things? For heaven's sakes, this comes up all the time after crashes and the investigators lose crucial data because of the record-over function of the tapes.

34 posted on 10/05/2001 9:07:17 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: RWG
Actually, I would imagine that I would be the first to notice a "problem" on the flight. You wouldn't mind if I borrowed your Samsonite to use as a sledge hammer, would you?
35 posted on 10/05/2001 9:10:47 AM PDT by RasterMaster
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To: Mean Maryjean
One of the flight attendants mentioned she was heating some water. This is the first I've heard of this. If true, can anyone please provide more information? Thanks.

I've seen this reported in several places. Here's one. Calls from Flight 93 Reveal Several Heroic Tactics

36 posted on 10/05/2001 9:12:09 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: cpdiii
I'm sure some of them were "too afraid". I would make sure the terrorists do not have an isle seat, or have an "accident" if they were walking toward the cockpit.
37 posted on 10/05/2001 9:19:33 AM PDT by RasterMaster
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To: TheOtherOne
Thanks for the great web site.
38 posted on 10/05/2001 9:42:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: GretchenEE
I'd like to see a realtime audio stream to the ground, like with the Space Shuttle.
39 posted on 10/05/2001 9:42:55 AM PDT by bootless
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To: RasterMaster
RM posted, "I hope that the next time I fly, I have some people such as these on board! Their courage in the face of danger will always be remembered."

I would be very surprised if half the plane didn't charge the hijackers if this ever happens again.

The Friday after 9/11, there was a memoria at our church. After the service, a bunch of old vets and relatively new vets started discussing flight 93 versus the other 3 flights. At that time all we had was the interview on local tv of the UA male flight attendent (riding the plane and not working) with his mother. To us it was fairly obvious that the brave people had crashed that plane instead of allowing it to be another bomb!

Our senior vet, combat Navy WWII, and Air Force after WWII until he retired, at age 80 and still in great shape, said that he would be up there fighting till they dropped him. There was instant agreement with all but one young vet. He comes from a FDR demonicRat family and was mouthing mantras. His wife, said Honey, then you could sit and worry about being PC, I will go up and do the job for both of us!

Subsequent discussions have been in the same finding. Most guys would go up and do what ever. What is amazing is the women of all ages, who said that they would be right there, biting, scratching, kneeing and punching until the hijackers were dead not out, dead. Two women whom I would not want mad at me, said that women might be the best weapons against these women hating serial killers. The first hard blow, knee to the groin or bitten off ear might push them right over the edge into uncontrolled ineffectiveness. They hate women and if a woman/women were really hurting them, they would lose control of the situation.

Last but not least a senior flight attendant said to remember that in many planes the arm rests can be removed. Then they could be used to send the hijackers to their heaven with their 52 virgin camels! She said that most flight attendents would help lead any battle. Those who wouldn't may not get a whole lot of flights as others might refuse to fly with them. She said no Flag or No Fight beliefs will not be tolerated by the rest of the flight crew!

Apparently serious discussions are being held by each flight crew before the passengers start to get on. There is no place on a plane's flight crew after 9/11 for a pacifist and an America hater! As a senior flight attendent, she would call management to remove anyone who would not fight and hates America from that flight. All pilots have backed her up!

40 posted on 10/05/2001 10:11:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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