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Feminist's anti-U.S. speech causes uproar
www.nationalpost.com ^ | Oct. 4, 2001 | MangoCrazy

Posted on 10/04/2001 9:48:54 PM PDT by MangoCrazy

So my fellow Freepers, here is the sickening part, a U.S. taxpayer funed prof, Julie Sudbury, from Mills College in Oakland, Calif., said:

"Sept. 11 has created a blank slate for global domination of the Bush agenda of militarism and global capitalism ... He's no longer the Texas hangman. He appears to have become the global hangman."


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To: coteblanche
Great letter! Thanks for the links -- and the support, neighbor.
101 posted on 10/05/2001 10:09:00 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: conniew
Hey everyone, I had Cheese fondue at Mills during a college get together way back in 1971. Even then they were pretty weird. Wonder if it was contagious.
102 posted on 10/05/2001 10:13:08 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: MangoCrazy
I was fortunate enough to get the complete transcript of the speech by Dr. Julia Sudbury, Associate Professor & Department Head, Department of Ethnic Studies of Mills College, given before her cheering audience in the language they clearly understand and appreciate:

"Oink, oink, oink, oink, oink,oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink,, etc"

103 posted on 10/05/2001 10:14:04 AM PDT by TheGoodDoc
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To: MangoCrazy
I was fortunate enough to get the complete transcript of the speech by Dr. Julia Sudbury, Associate Professor & Department Head, Department of Ethnic Studies of Mills College, given before her cheering audience in the language they clearly understand and appreciate:

"Oink, oink, oink, oink, oink,oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink,, etc"

104 posted on 10/05/2001 10:14:09 AM PDT by TheGoodDoc
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Since you are a Freeper you only get one gold star. An ordinary mortal would get three.
106 posted on 10/05/2001 10:56:35 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: NoDemocratsIn2000
Bzzzz, wrong. Barbara Lee.
107 posted on 10/05/2001 11:00:50 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Goldhammer
http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/columns/rebick/rebick011005.html An Attack on Speech

by Judy Rebick
October 5, 2001

We are not even at war yet and the most important freedom in a democracy, freedom of speech, is already under assault.

Sunera Thobani, a private citizen, a university professor and the former leader of the National Action Committee on the Status of Women is suffering the most ferocious attack in Parliament and in the media for something she said.

In a speech to 500 activists who work in the prison system, the anti-violence movement and with poor women, Thobani expressed anger against U.S. foreign policy. She explained that if we want to understand the terrible events of September 11, we have to understand the raging anger against the U.S. in the Middle East.[from all the poor destitute Muslims, like that impoverished Bin Laden]

Dr. Thobani is a dramatic and passionate speaker. She was speaking to an enthusiastic audience [of Commies] most of whom were glad to hear an alternative point of view [alternative to what? Certainly not to the left-wing Nazi positions that have have been unchanged for a hundred years], so she used passionate language.

"U.S. foreign policy is soaked in blood," she said. You may not like the formulation but the truth of the statement is unassailable. In Iraq alone, UNICEF says the mortality rate of children under five doubled from 1994 to 1998 after sanctions were imposed following the Gulf War. [fifteen Saddam palaces eat up a lot of that international humanitarian aid, you know] There's a long list of bloody coups, civil wars and repressive dictators in Latin America and the Middle East over the last decades paid for by the United States to protect what it saw as American interest. [and you do have to go back decades to find any 'repressive dictators'--but International Communism has long been more about nostalgia than it has been about solving problems]

She also suggested that women's rights would be further ahead without the domination of the United States around the world. Here there may be room for argument but there is no question that the strength of fundamentalists in the Middle East is directly due to U.S. support in the war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. The U.S. props us autocratic regimes like Saudi Arabia, where women don't even have the right to drive.

What she said has been shamelessly distorted by the right-wing media that seem to see an opportunity here to batter the women's movement as well as to create war hysteria. Globe and Mail columnist Margaret Wente used the occasion to attack the leadership of the women's movement for insisting that advocacy [=Communist agitation] is just as important as service in agencies working with marginalized women.

The contrast between reactions – the media and politicians on one side and the audience at one of the most successful women's conferences held in quite a while on the other – gives us a glimpse of the danger of further [much deserved] isolation of an already seriously weakened women's movement in the context of war.

Dr. Thobani is not the only one saying these things. Just last week, I heard British novelist Tariq Ali [a longtime Commie from the 60s] speak in Toronto. He was saying many of the same things. You can read similar arguments in alternative media in North America and in the European mainstream press every day.

So why the ferocious attack against Thobani? [The apalling ingratitude, I'd say] While others may be saying the same thing, no one has said it with as much passion, at least not in public. I have heard the same anger in meetings coming from people who have suffered at the hands of U.S. foreign policy, Palestinians [What anger? The Palis looked pretty happy on September 11th, to me anyway], and survivors of the U.S. backed coup in Chile, for example.

The ferocity of the attack on Thobani is not the only problem [I'll say]. Both B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell and the Globe's editorial cartoonist suggest that her views put Thobani in the camp of the Taliban. This smacks of a new kind of McCarthyism. [I think it's a requirement for this type of article to mention Chile and McCarthy in any and every imaginable context]

In his war speech, U.S. President George W. Bush said, "You are either with us or you are with the terrorists." Ms. Thobani and many who share her critique of American foreign policy are with neither. [That's questionable.]

The attack also appears to be sexist and racist. Thobani has always enraged the chattering classes for her refusal to play the submissive role they expect from immigrant women of colour. [As opposed to the enlightened Taliban expectations for women]There she stood railing against the U.S. in defiance of the agreed-upon rules of debate set by the ruling elite, [Huh?] dressed in the traditional dress of her people. I know a lot of people of Arabic or South Asian descent who feel the same way she does but they are afraid to say it. Now we know why. [Because they don't want to return to the pustulent Muslim ratholes they came from. Simple]

Judy Rebick is a frequent contributor to a number of Newsworld programs and author of Imagine Democracy (Stoddart). She is also the publisher of rabble.ca. You can e-mail her at Judy Rebick.

108 posted on 10/05/2001 11:24:00 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: MangoCrazy
Feminists should be deported to Afghanistan. The Taliban knows how to deal with them.
109 posted on 10/05/2001 11:26:12 AM PDT by Marduk
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To: ST.LOUIE1
yeah right! well, i do like the 'red green' show!
110 posted on 10/05/2001 12:05:21 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: conniew
I agree with you entirely on that. I was being sarcastic with that last line.

I've never known a feminazi to be anything other than dogmatic, hateful (even other feminazis if they don't believe her version of feminazism to the letter), untruthful, selfish,...oh, the list could go on and on. Better stop now before I end up ruining my whole day.

111 posted on 10/05/2001 12:50:40 PM PDT by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: getoffmylawn
This hasn't been a good month for you America-haters, has it? Are you "complicit" in anti-American terrorism, or are you just a garden-variety leftist com-symp? Either way, the only person you're impressing with your hatred of anti-communism is your own deluded self.
112 posted on 10/05/2001 1:48:01 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
This hasn't been a good month for you America-haters, has it?

I don't hate America.

Are you "complicit" in anti-American terrorism, or are you just a garden-variety leftist com-symp?

I have nothing to do with any form of terrorism and I'm not a leftist.

Either way, the only person you're impressing with your hatred of anti-communism is your own deluded self.

Hatred of anti-communism? I wouldn't go that far. I do believe that anti-communism isn't a very smart thing. Anybody that is a part of a nuclear family in America is more than likely a communist and they don't even realise it. If you work while your kids go to school and play at the park or in the sandbox while never contributing to the family income, like it or not, you are a communist. I think that's a good thing. I don't believe that 5 year olds should have to pull their own weight in the family.

Now if you want to discuss communism on a grander scale in society, I don't necessarily hate communism. It actually looks pretty good on paper. I just don't think that it's practicle. Human nature begs for incentive. Communism doesn't work.

That doesn't excuse the US from having a foreign policy "soaked in blood". No matter what you say, or how you may try to deflect this issue, we have much blood on our hands.

113 posted on 10/05/2001 2:49:19 PM PDT by getoffmylawn
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To: getoffmylawn
You have no more understanding of family than you have of communism.
115 posted on 10/05/2001 3:25:07 PM PDT by TN Republican
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To: Goldhammer
"Those of us who have been colonized know what this saving means."

"There will be no emancipation for women anywhere on this planet until the Western domination of this planet is ended" [Toronto Sun]

I have a feeling that you could crown women like Thobani queen of the world, and they still would have an inferiority complex.

Such is the mentality of the feminist movement. Self hatred.

116 posted on 10/05/2001 3:26:35 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Goldhammer
I don't recall mentioning the Communist Manifesto.
117 posted on 10/05/2001 4:05:15 PM PDT by getoffmylawn
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To: getoffmylawn
If US foriegn policy is "soaked in blood", apparently for supporting anti-communist movements in Central America, what does that make the foriegn and domestic policies of every communist state? BTW, aren't you confusing a "community" with "Communism"? Letting your kids play in the park doesn't make you a communist any more than thinking Woody Allen is a pervert makes you a nazi.
118 posted on 10/05/2001 8:11:16 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: MadRobotArtist
Guess What?

SInce I posted this yesterday, Professor Sudburys's webpage at Mills College has been "disabled"!!

Imagine that.

So send ALL your email to the college provost: SUSAN STEELE.

Maybe this "rocket scientist" will GET IT!

ssteele@mills.edu

119 posted on 10/05/2001 11:02:36 PM PDT by MangoCrazy
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To: MangoCrazy
The one word describing the feminist that comes to mind. BITCH!!!!
120 posted on 10/05/2001 11:09:41 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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