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Marines do it their own way (Dedicated to CHIEF negotiator)
MSNBC ^ | 10/04/01 | Sue Lackey

Posted on 10/04/2001 10:52:58 AM PDT by kattracks

A different approach to special forces   Image: U. S. M arine At Camp Pendleton
A Marine awaits orders during urban war training exercises last week at Camp Pendleton, California.
 
By Sue Lackey
MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR
Sept. 30 —  For the average Marine, it is both amusing and a bit galling to hear all the talk about “special forces” and their capabilities. For while the Army, Navy and Air Force have created Special Operations Commands with a unique structure, the Marine Corps has taken its basic forward deployed unit — the Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) — and trained every one in special operations tactics.

THE FAMED Delta Force is often celebrated as the nation’s most elite special operations team, but its position as a member of the the Army’s Joint Special Operations Command gives it a narrow focus restricted to counterterrorism and hostage rescue. In contrast, each MEU must be qualified in 18 separate mission areas, including counter terrorism. This broad focus in training and qualifications makes the Marine unit more versatile than any other service’s special operations forces.
       Gen. Alfred M. Gray, who served as Commandant of the Marine Corps in the early 1980s, helped create the Joint Special Operations Command. But while the command often requests Marines to flesh out its capability, the Corps is the only service which has refused to join the command at an organizational level. “It goes against the reason the Marine Corps was developed,” says a Marine officer who is a special operations specialist. “It would have forced the Corps to focus on one mission, when the nation needed an amphibious force for forcible entry, with much broader capabilities.”
       Under a recent reform of the system, traditional special operations forces forces are assigned to specific theater Commanders in Chief — for instance, the Commander in Chief, Europe or the Commander in Chief, Southern Command, which handles Latin America. East of these commands have units with specific specialties, and depend on that regional commander for support. MEU’s, however, an amphibious force that can be deployed at will to any theater. Their floating base of operations gives them the ability to sustain a mission longer than other special operations forces, which are traditionally used for short term insertions, or in the case of the Green Berets, specific insurgency training missions.
 

      The true strength of the MEUs lie in their ability to augment their forces with air and ground combat elements and combat service support. This means any given unit can call in tanks, amphibious assault vehicles, and fixed wing aircraft — all of which are part of standard MEU order of battle. Other special operations forces must rely on conventional service support when additional forces are needed.
       A perfect example of this versatility was in the 1983 Grenada invasion, where Army special forces were inserted to extract U.S. Embassy staff. The team was able to reach their target, but were then bottled up inside the embassy and unable to get out through enemy troops. The JSOC team then called for Marine support. An MEU which had been diverted to Grenada broke through with tanks and armored vehicles to extract their colleagues and the embassy personnel they had rescued.
       The way in which special operations training has been integrated into the basic structure of the Corps has changed the capabilities of the Corps as a whole. The other military services are large enough to allow their SF units to function in some degree of separation. Because the Marine Corps is so small in numbers, its SOC qualified personnel rotate on duty throughout the Corps, which has enhanced the overall quality of training and identification with special operations forces. Most of these men have now percolated to the top of the command structure. “It’s been in place so long now that a lot of the flag officers grew up with this-they’re Al Gray’s boys,” said one Marine special operations veteran. “That’s what you do not get in the other special forces, because they tend to stay in their own areas. When they do go into other units to further their careers, they have problems integrating within the conventional forces and its military bureaucracy. They don’t do well as staff officers; they want to go back to their unit.”
       That lack of experienced special forces officers at high levels to give special forces a voice allows other branches of the conventional forces to marginalize the effectiveness of special operations in budget battles and mission planning — a situation the Marine Corps has managed to avoid.

       



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1 posted on 10/04/2001 10:52:58 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I'm very proud to say that my brother-in-law is one of these brave men at Camp Pendleton :) You couldn't ask for a more dedicated Marine.
2 posted on 10/04/2001 10:57:12 AM PDT by Lorraine
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To: Lorraine
OMG - I posted the above before I read the other post and found out about Chief Negotiator. How very sad - the wise and wonderful man will be sorely missed.
3 posted on 10/04/2001 11:04:16 AM PDT by Lorraine
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To: kattracks
CHIEF negotiator dies in east Houston house fire
4 posted on 10/04/2001 11:29:02 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
My heart goes out to the family & friends of CHIEF Negotiator.

In the words of Ronald Reagan:"Some people live an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. Marines don't have that problem."

God Bless

5 posted on 10/04/2001 11:57:41 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: kattracks
Chief This is for you.
6 posted on 10/04/2001 12:02:00 PM PDT by 30-06 Springfield
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To: kattracks
My brother sent me an old photo of his son, who is standing post, on a flight deck. He is part of a recon group. Even with the baby face, you know he is ready.

The crime of our society is that kids born without "privledge" are the ones that choose to serve, because there is less future without the help of the military and your post service benefits. They know that service has it's rewards and it has it's costs. When we where young we all hoped that we would be brave as well.

Just rememeber that when you speak of Klinton, you start with"He was a coward,that is why he..." Nothing will stop a back shooter from their evil actions!!

Other poor kids went to war or decided to serve for the benefit of others. A coward serves himself.

7 posted on 10/04/2001 12:12:56 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: MJY1288
In the words of Ronald Reagan: "Some people live an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. Marines don't have that problem."

Beautiful!

Rest in peace, Chief. We'll miss ya around here.

8 posted on 10/04/2001 12:16:35 PM PDT by Arizona
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To: kattracks
Thanks for the post.

I can't stand this. The CHIEF is one of my favorites.

9 posted on 10/04/2001 12:42:12 PM PDT by carenot
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To: kattracks
TAPS
10 posted on 10/04/2001 4:31:30 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: CHIEF negotiator
*SALUTE*
11 posted on 10/06/2001 10:49:03 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: To All
Missing Marine Salute above.
12 posted on 10/06/2001 10:49:54 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thank you, Marines! We love you and appreciate all you do and have done for our country!
(And everything you are going to do!)
13 posted on 10/06/2001 10:52:25 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: kattracks
This is a very good write-up. The major point here is that instead of creating a separate 'elite' force-within-a-force the Corps trains everyone it possibly can in these tactics and then sends them around to spread their expertise to the rest. The result is a truly elite Corps.

When America has a problem, we can always count on the Marine Corps to eliminate the source of that problem.

Semper Fidelis!

14 posted on 02/08/2003 4:14:01 AM PST by LibKill (ColdWarrior. I stood the watch.)
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