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To: jerod
Actually, as opposed to "losing it", she is making a very insightful point. Have you seen detailed statements by Islamic leaders in the US detailing how bin Laden is outside the pale of Islamic thought? I haven't. Have you seen detailed Islamic theological arguements seperating bin Laden's Fatwah from right thinking Islam? I haven't.

I have only seen expressions of sadness for the loss, very general statements that Islam is a loving religion, and a failure to make a detailed theological response putting the Jihad, as practiced by these terrorists, completely outside Islamic thought. Go Maggie!

9 posted on 10/04/2001 9:15:09 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: KC Burke
Have you seen detailed statements by Islamic leaders in the US detailing how bin Laden is outside the pale of Islamic thought? I haven't. Have you seen detailed Islamic theological arguements seperating bin Laden's Fatwah from right thinking Islam? I haven't. I have only seen expressions of sadness for the loss, very general statements that Islam is a loving religion, and a failure to make a detailed theological response putting the Jihad, as practiced by these terrorists, completely outside Islamic thought.

I haven't seen it either. And I've noticed that, while it's okay to subject American culture and foreign policy to all kinds of criticism and scrutiny, it is absolutely forbidden to make any call for a similar treatment of Islam. And where I work, I notice that those screaming the loudest that YOU CAN'T SAY "Islam is violent" have never read the Koran. A good, careful reading of the first 9 chapters would put a new flavor in their mouths, if they just had the guts to actually read it.

14 posted on 10/04/2001 9:22:50 AM PDT by Anamensis
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To: KC Burke
#9: "Go Maggie".

Dittos!

Here's the kinds of questions I want answered on NATIONAL, and world-wide, prime-time TV:

The first question I would ask of all the "respected" leaders who hold to the Islamic religion / the Islamic world-view is this:

According to your holy book, the Koran, who is an *infidel*?

Allah teaches you in the Koran that infidels are his enemies. Do you view infidels as your personal enemies?

Does Allah teach you in the Koran to love your enemies, like the Christian God does?

We know the Koran teaches you to live and relate to other people in peace and tolerance. Do these "other people" include those who aren't members of the Islamic religion ("infidels")?

Does Allah teach you in the Koran that it is NOT OK to kill people UNLESS they are infidels?

Do you approve of, and support those of the Islamic religion who kill infidels (those not of the Islamic religion)?

And here's the big one:

Will you denounce, here and now, in no UNCERTAIN terms, Islamics who kill, and seek to kill, those who don't believe in Allah, don't believe in the Koran, and aren't members of the Islamic religion (a/k/a "infidels")?

27 posted on 10/04/2001 10:01:14 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: KC Burke
I have only seen expressions of sadness for the loss, very general statements that Islam is a loving religion, and a failure to make a detailed theological response putting the Jihad, as practiced by these terrorists, completely outside Islamic thought. Go Maggie!

That bears repeating.

30 posted on 10/04/2001 10:07:28 AM PDT by OK
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