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GOLD $340.00 PLUS BY DEC
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Posted on 10/03/2001 6:04:40 PM PDT by robnoel

Rodney Smith

BBC business reporter

The price of gold could go to $340 an ounce within the next three months - and continue to soar after that.

This not any old forecast by a "gold bug", those gold enthusiasts, but a complete about-face by one of the staunchest pessimists on gold prices in the business. Andy Smith is the precious metals analyst at Mitsui Securities in London. In a business that breeds many of its own experts from the ranks of the mining industry, Andy Smith stands out as a specialist in the dismal science; a hardened economist, unhampered by too much knowledge about how gold is produced, but very clear on how its market works.

He has frequently suffered vilification from within the gold mining industry for his dauntlessly negative attitude to gold - "just a commodity" he says, but more disdainfully than others who also know this to be true. About-face

So when he says gold is for buying, people look surprised at the very least. His logic is that the world has been changed more than most people realise by the destruction of the Twin Towers in New York.

Gold thrives on uncertainty, and the world has shifted into a new climate of insecurity. Risks have increased markedly.

The attacks on the United States were the start of the drama, not the climax. The reaction, says Mr Smith, is yet to begin.

Stable price

That would explain why the gold price has stabilised, more or less, in the high $280s an ounce to the low $290s an ounce since its initial sharp upsurge and recovery after September 11.

There are many in the gold market who argue that only reason the gold price has not risen farther is because central banks and some of the big investment banks are deliberately suppressing it by selling gold as soon as the price spikes.

They have never been fans of Mr Smith, but they will be lauding his change of heart. They will agree with him that the present climate of low interest rates mean money is so cheap at the moment (especially for the Japanese) that speculation on the gold prices becomes attractive.

It is also a market that has shrunk by half over five years from lack of enthusiasm. Relatively small investment demand could have a marked effect on the price. And Mr Smith warns that if an adventurous hedge fund takes a shine to gold - as the Tiger Fund famously did with palladium several years ago - gold could start moving very fast. Gold standard

Calm voices in the gold industry are thankful for his change of heart, and find his logic appealing -- while pointing out that for gold to become really attractive, other markets have to become less viable.

No signs of that in today's liquidity-soaked Wall street, or anywhere else. The man-on-the-corner-of-the street in Kabul suffers too from the truth, as seen in the Turkish banking crisis, buys on the rumour of the uncertainty but sells on the fact - because by definition he needs the money.

Enthusiasts of gold, tend to forget some of the truths about gold. It was not always the favourite currency in the US, for example. The United States only adopted the gold standard from the 1870s to 1933.

Other commodities had also played a part in the monetary system, even tobacco. Before the American revolution, barter was an important form of trade. Popular and in wide use was tobacco. But it was inconvenient to carry in any volume, so "tobacco notes" evolved, certificates attesting to the quality and quantity of tobacco in public warehouses.

These certificates were authorised as legal tender in Virginia in 1727 and were regularly accepted as such throughout most of the 18th century. But there are no "tobacco bugs" today.


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1 posted on 10/03/2001 6:04:40 PM PDT by robnoel
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To: robnoel
The price of gold could go to $340 an ounce within the next three months - and continue to soar after that.

So maybe I'll finally make back some of the money I've lost on gold over the last 15 years? I'll believe it when I see it. C'mon $1000/oz!

2 posted on 10/03/2001 6:10:15 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: Who dat?
Be careful what you wish for :-)
3 posted on 10/03/2001 6:12:11 PM PDT by robnoel
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To: robnoel
I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
4 posted on 10/03/2001 6:17:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I would be very happy to sell you a US Eagle today...and yes you can pay tomorrow!
5 posted on 10/03/2001 6:22:23 PM PDT by robnoel
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To: robnoel
[har] bump
6 posted on 10/03/2001 6:27:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: robnoel
"The price of gold could go to $340 an ounce within the next three months - and continue to soar after that."

Soybeans will hit $15, corn $6 first.

Thats for the midwest farmers here at FR.

7 posted on 10/03/2001 6:30:44 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: Balding_Eagle
Although I deal in gold...you are aware that trading hours for are now from 9-11 am and no limit orders....whats the reason?....not sure what the deal is on soybeans
8 posted on 10/03/2001 6:37:08 PM PDT by robnoel
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To: robnoel
Baloney. Any moves will be offset by short-term profit taking. Secondly, too many people were burned in the 79-80 crash. They have long memories and lots of Krugs and Maple Leafs lining their closets that they'd just love to unload at just about any price. Lastly, any attempt at a runup would be carefully scrutinized by the Boards of the various commodity houses. Example: The Chicago Board of Trade putting a forced liquidation on gold in 79. Want to get burned? Just fall for what these gloom-and-doomers are promoting.
9 posted on 10/03/2001 6:37:20 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam
OH ...you mean like CISCO from $70.00 to $6.00 or YAHOO from $241.00 to $12.00....please give me a break....GOLD HAS NEVER GONE TO ZERO IN 5000 YEARS.....want to bet on CISCO going to the big ZERO?
10 posted on 10/03/2001 6:43:06 PM PDT by robnoel
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To: Who dat?
Gold at $1000.00 an ounce would be a very bad thing, just as much for the guy who has it, as for the guy doesn't. But, the thought that this whole world is bought and paid for with FIAT money is down right scary.
11 posted on 10/03/2001 6:46:07 PM PDT by LandofLincoln
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To: robnoel
I would be very happy to sell you a US Eagle today...and yes you can pay tomorrow!

Beware the Gold shill! :)
12 posted on 10/03/2001 6:48:24 PM PDT by Daus
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To: LandofLincoln
But, the thought that this whole world is bought and paid for with FIAT money is down right scary.

Not much scarier than basing it on gold, IMHO. Whether the government controls the value of gold or controls the supply of fiat money makes little difference, me thinks.

13 posted on 10/03/2001 6:52:05 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Daus
Time will tell....I am prepared to put it on the line....and am more than willing to accept the hits if it does not pan out in the time outlined by the BBC....more than can be said by many!
14 posted on 10/03/2001 6:52:51 PM PDT by robnoel
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To: robnoel
Gold going to $340.00/oz. That would be a nice Christmas present.
15 posted on 10/03/2001 6:52:52 PM PDT by Justanumba
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To: Justanumba
:-)
16 posted on 10/03/2001 6:53:40 PM PDT by robnoel
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To: robnoel
Gold $340 an ounce by the end of December, if you care to wager on that one, I am in.

P.S. I will take the UNDER.

17 posted on 10/03/2001 6:56:13 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: Daus
Give me credit for be consistent :-)�
18 posted on 10/03/2001 6:56:27 PM PDT by robnoel
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To: dubyaismypresident
Name your bet brother....
19 posted on 10/03/2001 6:58:12 PM PDT by robnoel
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To: robnoel
I guess I better get all those fancy piercings done soon. Here (ow), and here (ow), no no not there! (ow)
20 posted on 10/03/2001 7:04:05 PM PDT by lds23
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