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L’Affaire Coulter
National Review Online ^ | 10/3/01 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 10/03/2001 11:35:13 AM PDT by BamaG

L’Affaire Coulter
Goodbye to all that.

By Jonah Goldberg, NRO Editor
October 3, 2001 2:20 p.m.

 

ear Readers,

As many of you may have heard, we've dropped Ann Coulter's column from NRO. This has sparked varying amounts of protest, support, and, most of all, curiosity from our readers. We owe you an explanation.

Of course, we would explain our decision to Ann, but the reality is that she's called the shots from the get-go. It was Ann who decided to sever her ties with National Review — not the other way around.

This is what happened.

In the wake of her invade-and-Christianize-them column, Coulter wrote a long, rambling rant of a response to her critics that was barely coherent. She's a smart and funny person, but this was Ann at her worst — emoting rather than thinking, and badly needing editing and some self-censorship, or what is commonly referred to as "judgment."

Running this "piece" would have been an embarrassment to Ann, and to NRO. Rich Lowry pointed this out to her in an e-mail (I was returning from my honeymoon). She wrote back an angry response, defending herself from the charge that she hates Muslims and wants to convert them at gunpoint.

But this was not the point. It was NEVER the point. The problem with Ann's first column was its sloppiness of expression and thought. Ann didn't fail as a person — as all her critics on the Left say — she failed as WRITER, which for us is almost as bad.

Rich wrote her another e-mail, engaging her on this point, and asking her — in more diplomatic terms — to approach the whole controversy not as a PR-hungry, free-swinging pundit on Geraldo, but as a careful writer.

No response.

Instead, she apparently proceeded to run around town bad-mouthing NR and its employees. Then she showed up on TV and, in an attempt to ingratiate herself with fellow martyr Bill Maher, said we were "censoring" her.

By this point, it was clear she wasn't interested in continuing the relationship.

What publication on earth would continue a relationship with a writer who would refuse to discuss her work with her editors? What publication would continue to publish a writer who attacked it on TV? What publication would continue to publish a writer who lied about it — on TV and to a Washington Post reporter?

And, finally, what CONSERVATIVE publication would continue to publish a writer who doesn't even know the meaning of the word "censorship"?

So let me be clear: We did not "fire" Ann for what she wrote, even though it was poorly written and sloppy. We ended the relationship because she behaved with a total lack of professionalism, friendship, and loyalty.

What's Ann's take on all this? Well, she told the Washington Post yesterday that she loves it, because she's gotten lots of great publicity. That pretty much sums Ann up.

On the Sean Hannity show yesterday, however, apparently embarrassed by her admission to the Post, she actually tried to deny that she has sought publicity in this whole matter. Well, then, Ann, why did you complain of being "censored" on national TV? Why did you brag to the Post about all the PR?

Listening to Ann legalistically dodge around trying to explain all this would have made Bill Clinton blush.

Ann also told the Post that we only paid her $5 a month for her work (would that it were so!). Either this is a deliberate lie, or Ann needs to call her accountant because someone's been skimming her checks.

Many readers have asked, why did we run the original column in which Ann declared we should "invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity" — if we didn't like it?

Well, to be honest, it was a mistake. It stemmed from the fact this was a supposedly pre-edited syndicated column, coming in when NRO was operating with one phone line and in general chaos. Our bad.

Now as far as Ann's charges go, I must say it's hard to defend against them, because they either constitute publicity-minded name-calling, like calling us "girly-boys" — or they're so much absurd bombast.

For example:

  • Ann — a self-described "constitutional lawyer" — volunteered on Politically Incorrect that our "censoring" of her column was tantamount to "repealing the First Amendment." Apparently, in Ann's mind, she constitutes the thin blonde line between freedom and tyranny, and so any editorial decision she dislikes must be a travesty.
  • She sniffed to the Washington Post's Howard Kurtz that "Every once in awhile they'll [National Review] throw one of their people to the wolves to get good press in left-wing publications." I take personal offense to this charge. She's accusing us of betraying a friend for publicity, when in fact it was the other way around.
  • And, lastly, this "Joan of Arc battling the forces of political correctness" act doesn't wash. In the same 20 days in which Ann says — over and over and over again — that NR has succumbed to "PC hysteria," we've run pieces celebrating every PC shibboleth and bogeyman.

Paul Johnson has criticized Islam as an imperial religion. William F. Buckley himself has called, essentially, for a holy war. Rich Lowry wants to bring back the Shah, and I've written that Western Civilization has every right to wave the giant foam "We're Number 1!" finger as high as it wants.

The only difference between what we've run and what Ann considers so bravely iconoclastic on her part, is that we've run articles that accord persuasion higher value than shock value. It's true: Ann is fearless, in person and in her writing. But fearlessness isn't an excuse for crappy writing or crappier behavior.

To be honest, even though there's a lot more that could be said, I have no desire to get any deeper into this because, like with a Fellini movie, the deeper you get, the less sense Ann makes.

We're delighted that FrontPageMagazine has, with remarkable bravery, picked up Ann's column, presumably for only $5 a month. They'll be getting more than what they're paying for, I'm sure.

— Jonah Goldberg



TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; coulter
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To: Aristophanes
Poor little Jonah. First Coulter accuses him of being a "girly man" and then he comes right out and proves her right.

What a whining hypocrite Jonah is!

161 posted on 10/03/2001 2:33:51 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: BamaG
Just before the Attack, I'd commented to a friend of mine that Ann Coulter was the Maureen Doud of the conservative camp. Her writing is sophomoric, sensational, full of cheap shots, and cliches that wouldn't get her through a freshman composition class. Furthermore her ideas are strung together in such fashion that they sound like sound bites of various other people. I recently was surprised to hear she actually has a law degree because I honestly thought what she lacked in intellectual honesty was made up for in her appearance, and that is why so many people let her skate.
162 posted on 10/03/2001 2:36:21 PM PDT by ruthles
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To: ALL
Bottom line.....Coulter was upset over the death of her close friend. Instead of some kind commiseration from NR, NR PANICKED AND TOSSED HER TO THE WOLVES. COULTER, ALREADY HEARTBROKEN, OVERREACTED TO THE NR SNUB. NR RECIPROCATED THE OVERREACTION, BY OVERRACTING THEMSELVES, AND DISCONTINUED HER COLUMN.....AND THE BEAT GOES ON......
163 posted on 10/03/2001 2:39:34 PM PDT by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: A CA Guy
look this is the girly-boy and she is correct again.

LOL

164 posted on 10/03/2001 2:39:59 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: sharktrager
Is this the same Libertarian Party that ran Howard Stern as a Gubernatorial candidate in New York?

Here in California the LP once ran a whore for Lieutenant Governor.

166 posted on 10/03/2001 2:41:34 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: ken5050
...Jonah's mom, Lucianne...
Why thank you, Sir. Filling in so many of the blanks these days...
167 posted on 10/03/2001 2:44:40 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: ChiefsMan
I love reading Coulter and I like reading NRO. I even actually met Ann when she came to KC for the Zenith Boosters Club. However, NRO has every discretion to let her go.

Go Chiefs, but I think the Broncos are going to drop them this weekend. They don't lose 2 games in a row at home very often.

168 posted on 10/03/2001 2:47:19 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: sinkspur
Coulter doesn't vanish into the ether over at Frontpage

Nope! That will never happen since as I recall a thread here about David teaching Freerepublic how to combat the left for a week?

Nope Ann is in good hands as is Freerepublic. Thank goodness we are not in the hands of girly-man goldy.

that would be scary. Anyways the only reason he answered was because of Freerepublic and the protest and boycott.

In his girly words of oh no who will read me now, who will hit the web site.

As many of you may have heard, we've dropped Ann Coulter's column from NRO. This has sparked varying amounts of protest, support, and, most of all, curiosity from our readers. We owe you an explanation.

sounds like many heard about it unless they are the left?

169 posted on 10/03/2001 2:48:38 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: philman_36
Now I know the connection. His mom isn't liked enough like Ann, if at all. Thanks for the connection.

Now I am LOLROF over this guy. After I just saw his picture I new something was up. Sinkspur is right why waste time on this kid he will never apologize his Mommy won't let him.

171 posted on 10/03/2001 2:54:19 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Big Bunyip
"Wonder who caught little Jonah's bouquet at the reception?"

Wonder who's implying that who is catty?

172 posted on 10/03/2001 2:57:41 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: TLBSHOW
I honestly think that you overestimate a) the percentage of National Review's readers that are member's of FreeRepublic, b) the number of people who read both who side with Ann on this issue, and c) the number of people who are who read both who side with Ann on this issue and would be willing to boycott National Review's website. Not only that, but a boycott of the website wouldn't hurt them a great deal, because it's free and any loss online Ad revenue would have a miniscule effect, because the vast majority of their revenuew comes from the ads in the magazine (plus subscriptions).
173 posted on 10/03/2001 2:59:15 PM PDT by Romestamo
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To: uncitizen
This "let's Christianize them" thing pushed the envelope too far.

While I don't agree with you, I do agree that you have put you're finger on the problem. And the problem is the "conversion" of National Review.

I have been a longtime (45 year) subscriber to NR. I have always known it was not a Christian magazine. It was conservative, but Buckley was at least a Catholic -- and therefore nominally Christian.

Now fast forward to 2001 and Ann Coulter is fired for what? Suggesting that the solution to our problems with primitive pagans would be solved by conversion to Christianity. Well, here's news -- IT IS THE SOLUTION.

What is truly sad is that on this forum, people are talking about everything but the issue. I read nonsense about the length of her skirts, her hair, her bustline. None of that was the reason that NR -- of all entities -- fired her. They fired her because she SAID what every Christian KNOWS -- the solution to our problems with the Mohammedans is their conversion to Christianity.

As I have said before on this forum, I am done with NR after 45 years. Not because of Ann Coulter, but because NR has abandoned Truth. Ann Coulter's firing is a symptom of NR's disease; it has rotted from the inside.

174 posted on 10/03/2001 2:59:46 PM PDT by winstonchurchill
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To: NYCVirago
"as a Constitutional lawyer, she certainly knows what the real meaning of censorship is."

I take it from your suggestion that you know "what the real meaning of censorship is"?

I'd appreciate it if you'd take the time from your busy schedule to explain it to me.

BTW, please note that I did not ask for an explantion of what "government censorship" is; I already know what that means. I'm looking for a simple, direct, unambiguous explanaion of what you believe that "censorship" itself means, devoid of any government context.

Thanks in advance, etc.

175 posted on 10/03/2001 3:07:27 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Romestamo
It is all up to Ann. I hope she uses her keyboard for a slam dunk in answer to Goldy. As for who reads what, this is America read what you want. I will never bring stuff over from there and jh2 says he won't. I guess thats the best I can do. I won't hold my breath for him to apologize he looks too much like a brat to me that never grew up.
176 posted on 10/03/2001 3:08:45 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: winstonchurchill
As I have said before on this forum, I am done with NR after 45 years. Not because of Ann Coulter, but because NR has abandoned Truth. Ann Coulter's firing is a symptom of NR's disease; it has rotted from the inside.

I agree Sir Winston the truth will come out.

177 posted on 10/03/2001 3:10:57 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Anyways the only reason he answered was because of Freerepublic and the protest and boycott.

I doubt it. Never overestimate your own importance.

who will read me now, who will hit the web site.

Actually, NRO will still get read and articles from it will still be posted on FR and commented on by FReepers.

You're Don Quixote, SHOW. And Ann is your Dulcinea. Keep tilting at windmills.

178 posted on 10/03/2001 3:11:42 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Hugh Akston
Heh :)
179 posted on 10/03/2001 3:17:26 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: TLBSHOW
That crooked smile of his just about says it all. Poor Jonah is just following his genetic code on this one. Looks like stabbing fellow conservatives in the back is a dominant gene in the Goldberg family.
180 posted on 10/03/2001 3:19:02 PM PDT by doodlebug
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