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US Called Off First Attacks
This Is London ^ | 10/3/01 | Jeremy Campbell

Posted on 10/03/2001 9:25:39 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana

The United States and Britain yesterday called off military strikes against terrorist targets in Afghanistan at the last minute.

Washington officials say today that a severe attack of last-minute cold feet by some key Arab members of the coalition caused President Bush to postpone the operation.

The waverers are Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan and Oman, and US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is embarking on an urgent mission today to strengthen nerves in these countries.

Prime Minister Tony Blair is also about to undertake a hasty visit to the region. Saudi Arabia's support is especially vital, because Allied aircraft and commanders need its base facilities.

Two senior US officials have told reporters that until yesterday the Saudis were firm in their offer to provide assistance for strikes, including use of a state-of-the-art command centre at the Prince Royal Sultan Air Force Base.

Then the situation changed. One US official told Knight Newspapers: "That is no longer true. We fear there is something deeper here."

Mr Rumsfeld's trip to the Middle East is intended to mend these unexpected ruptures.

Downing Street, meanwhile, confirmed Mr Blair will be departing on a mission tomorrow but refused, on security grounds, to be drawn on any of the detail. Amid clear unease over the advance leaks of the trip, a spokesman dismissed all reports as "speculationî maintaining that some of the suggested calling points for the Prime Minister were simply wrong.

Mr Rumsfeld's tour, which includes Saudi Arabia, Oman, Egypt and Uzbekistan, is being compared to the stage-setting trip made by Dick Cheney, then Defence Secretary, to the Gulf just before the start of Desert Storm.

This time there is more at stake. Near the top of Mr Rumsfeld's list of priorities is to talk his way to an agreement with Uzbekistan, on the northern border of Afghanistan, to use the country as a staging area for the attack.

Uzbekistan is now regarded as a potential key asset in the coming showdown, but is rated the coalition's single most fragile link.

Highly attractive to the US are the number of abandoned air bases there, once used by the Soviet Union.

This will be Mr Rumsfeld's first face-to-face meeting with the ruling regime there. It has demanded that the US negotiate a complete Status of Forces Agreement before it will permit the use of its military bases - an unrealistic condition which could be tangled up in legal knots for years.

The trip, undertaken at the request of President Bush, is expected to last three days.

Oman, also skittish, is regarded as an important support base for a ground incursion. US special operations forces can be flown there and then put on amphibious invasion ships.

US officials are not sure whether this is a case of lastminute jitters, or " something more serious".

One notable omission on Mr Rumsfeld's itinerary is Pakistan. "The last thing Pakistan needs is a high profile visit by a US Secretary of Defence," said a Pentagon official.

The country is contending with ferocious anti-American demonstrations, with Mr Bus burned in effigy and hordes shouting: "Death to America! Let Americans come here to be buried!"

Washington officials advised reporters not to assume military action was only hours away. They stressed that Mr Bush will act only when he is convinced, by Mr Rumsfeld and others, that "all the pieces are in place". Such action will come "at various stages and times", they said. The President himself told reporters there is "no calendar" for the start of hostilities.


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To: Brian Allen
It's OIL, Brian, OIL. Bush and Cheney must serve their constituency.
141 posted on 10/03/2001 4:56:12 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: RobFromGa
DRILL ANWR now so we don't have to depend on the schizoid Middle East.

That or quit sending the North Slope oil to Japan.

142 posted on 10/03/2001 4:57:17 PM PDT by hattend
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To: stryker
"The proper response to the attacks on our homeland has to be one of overwhelming brutality and horror on such a scope that no country would ever dare allow such an incident to again occur, preferably against Iran and Iraq. And that response would then be followed with more limited actions to take out the potential nuclear, chemical, biological and intercontinental abilities of the Muslim nations. While this sounds horrible, we will live to rue the day that we did not take this path."

We're too nice. Might hurt someone's feelings. Not PC. They are a loving people.

The foolishness of "nice" people knows no bounds.

143 posted on 10/03/2001 5:00:13 PM PDT by vigilo
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To: hattend
That or quit sending the North Slope oil to Japan.

Do you have a link that backs this up? I don't believe it.

144 posted on 10/03/2001 5:04:35 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Palladin
When you research the Bin Laden financial history in Saudi Arabia & the U.S., you get a real surprise.

Bin Laden's half-brother got Swiss citizenship in May. Then, immediately after the 9-11 events, the USA members of Bin Laden's family get whisked to a staging point in Texas, then to D.C. where they are flown out of the country on a private jet.

Taking any bets that they took the money from the U.S. accounts with them?

Now, ask yourself, "What's wrong in this picture?"

Yeah - somebody made a phone call.

Start paying attention to those mysterious stock transactions; and don't buy into the rhetoric.

"It was nothing personal, Michael; just business."
145 posted on 10/03/2001 5:11:22 PM PDT by SKYDRIFTER
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To: Texbob
With you it is a matter of being wishy washy.

I'm not sure what you are implying. I have been firm in my views the entire time.

146 posted on 10/03/2001 5:13:03 PM PDT by SunStar
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To: RobFromGa
The Alaskan oil is sold to Japan, cheaper than the USA - fact. The Seattle times & P-I, caught them at that.
147 posted on 10/03/2001 5:13:22 PM PDT by SKYDRIFTER
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To: RobFromGa; RightWhale
Nope, just what the old timers say. I've only been in the state 3 years but the people who I work with are always bitching about it. I flagged RightWhale, he may have an answer.
148 posted on 10/03/2001 5:14:11 PM PDT by hattend
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To: SKYDRIFTER
The Alaskan oil is sold to Japan, cheaper than the USA - fact.

What does "cheaper than the USA" mean? Do you have a link?

In any case, we can certainly stop selling it to Japan if we need it here more. This is kind of a red herring anyway. Start a new thread and flag me over there if you want to discuss this mostly irrelevant issue.

149 posted on 10/03/2001 5:19:05 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: hispanarepublicana
Does the hammer and sickle still adorn the Pravda masthead? Get real!
150 posted on 10/03/2001 5:21:39 PM PDT by Petronski
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To: The Raven
Invading and securing Iran at the outset would be an absolutely brilliant strategy.... and SO unlike the America that has wimpered our way along since 1945. One can only hope...
151 posted on 10/03/2001 5:28:59 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
I agree -- what do terrorists depend on to get "bang for the buck" (no disrespect intended)? The media, reporting, sensationalism, perceptions, fear mongering. Think how confusing this is for them -- unless they have moles deep inside our government and the British government.
153 posted on 10/03/2001 5:40:06 PM PDT by alethia
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To: belmont_mark
The winning strategy in the most recent "war" that started in 1991 when we took the bait (9/11/2001 was just another volley disguised as "terrorism").... Split the Trans-Asian Axis right up the middle. Separate Russia from China and China from Pakistan..... then, finish the job off by breaking up the entire Axis into pieces. This would also finish the following obvious but never done / finished jobs:

1. The US Eastward thrust into Eastern Europe in 1944 - 1946.

2. The US northward thrust into Manchuria in 1953.

3. The US northward and westward thrusts into the PRC, Laos, and Cambodia in 1968 - 197x.

4. The US invasion and occupation of Cuba 1962 - 6x.

5. The US occupation of Iraq 1991 - ?

6. Retaliation for the PRC attack on the EP3 over sovereign seas in 2001.

... oh, and by the way, READ AND REREAD BODANSKY!!!

154 posted on 10/03/2001 5:43:16 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: hispanarepublicana

BREAKING NEWS: The Attacks Have Been Rescheduled For A New Date To Be Announced After The Attack.

stay tuned for the latest...

155 posted on 10/03/2001 5:46:03 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: belmont_mark, pericles
Bump
156 posted on 10/03/2001 5:47:05 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: belmont_mark
I agree -- it's well past time to do something about Iran.
157 posted on 10/03/2001 5:47:53 PM PDT by alethia
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To: East Bay Patriot
If you're not already gone....

Emotions and sensitivities come and go. Whomever decides to pull a post probably makes a mistake now and then. What matters to me is that I posted a frightened inquiry about a medical problem and more than a hundred people answered me. On one thread I can be in a major flamewar about some crank libertarian idea or semi-racist notion, and on another I can be absolutely blown away by how much human beings can care about one another. It's like any family; sometimes somebody gets hurt, but if you go away mad, don't go too far. I haven't been here all that long, but you know hardly anybody who'd stick around is much of a Nazi. I don't think that's true of many groups this large.
158 posted on 10/03/2001 5:51:41 PM PDT by ChemistCat
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To: OldWhig
It's not the timetable I'm objecting to, it's the coalition. If the administration wants to take their sweet time attempting to get our military as prepared as they need to be to prosecute this war, I'm all for it. Considering the butcher-job that Clinton did -- bringing our 600 ship Naval fleet down to 300 -- I can understand that organization is paramount. No, what I'm objecting to is the fact that we're bringing terrorist sponsoring states into the coalition......states which should be invaded, not catered to. Bush Sr. made huge, unforgivable mistakes in not going all the way to Baghdad, destroying the Republcian Guard, destroying their weapons of mass destruction, and killing Saddam. Truth be told, we had to suffer eight years of Clinton for these mistakes. I like W as well, but there are already some signs that he may be taking us down the same road. I hope I'm wrong.

I totally agree. Allow me to apologize for the "you" in my post, but I stand by the content and concern about second-guessing this president. Methinks the "coalition" crap comes heavily from the Cheney-Powell experience with GHW, and "W" would be responsible even if this is the case.

I too am sick and tired of "multi-lateral" thinking. Sooner or later someone (a country) with some balls must act.

159 posted on 10/03/2001 5:52:12 PM PDT by sayfer bullets
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To: RobFromGa
That or quit sending the North Slope oil to Japan.

They did send a percentage to Asia for a while, then they stopped, but they are sending some now, not a lot, but not zero either. North Slope oil production is down a lot from when the fields were fresh, which is where ANWR could recharge the pipeline to a degree.

Big Oil seems to act in a high-handed way if possible, which we are seeing right now WRT developing the North Slope natural gas. They wish to bypass the State of Alaska and go directly through Canada, and they don't like local hire either. This is all top level policy between Big Oil and the Feds, although Alaska is trying to promote some direct benefit to the State. They would cut Alaska out completely, both in jobs and in product, but Gov Knowles [D]is arguing strongly for the State. Give him credit even if he is a D.

160 posted on 10/03/2001 5:52:45 PM PDT by RightWhale
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