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Carefully selected, there are Koranic preachments that are consistent with civilized life. But on September 11th we were looked in the face by a deed done by Muslims who understood themselves to be acting out Muslim ideals.

This is exactly what I and many other FReepers have been feeling and expressing these past few weeks and our State Dept. and Media have done their best so far to convince all of us not to believe "our lying eyes".

Kudos to WFB for setting the record straight. Unfortunately for the lovely Miss Coulter....her words strictly about forced conversion were a case of emotional hyberbole and her defiance to her editors resulted in her dismissal. I fear not that she will find another more suitable place for expression.

"Believing my lying eyes" is a phrase that has crossed my mind quite a bit recently. I've also been reading up on Islam in light of everything. It just isn't a religion (or political movement if you like) that I can tolerate in it's current form. It is wholly uncivilized, barbaric and counterproductive. The Taliban and their Wahabi version of Islam make the Dark Ages look like Star Trek.

Yet, if someone points this out (even here on FR) they are accused of "intolerance". Many threads have been yanked because posters aren't as articulate as Buckley while saying the same thing. To ask me to tolerate a religion whose main tenant is the eradication of Western culture under the guise of "diversity" is preposterous! It would be akin to asking of the Jews to accept Nazism as an "alternative political lifestyle".

And yet the "99% of moslems are peaceful American-loving people" crowd continue guide the debate. All I ask is where is the evidence? Where is one photo of a pro-American demonstration in a moslem (or Western) country? I've begun to doubt the existence of such.

I hope this reply isn't a thread-killer.

Carefully selected, there are Koranic preachments that are consistent with civilized life.

Unfortunately, you must make the same kind of selection from the Old Testament to find a Christian or Jewish sect that is consistent with civilized life. It is just that our ancestors did that for us long ago, and we don't even think about the "unpleasant parts" of the Old Testament.
Read Mark Twain's "Letters from Earth" if you want to see particular passages dissected

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