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Another sterling example of academia. Especially touching that she's adopting a child.

sheesh

1 posted on 10/02/2001 9:33:22 AM PDT by mombonn
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Not that the events of Sept. 11 have altered her opinions. "To many, many ordinary people in countries around the globe, the U.S. has done terrifying things," she says. "If I think about the flag, I have to think about it from the point of view of those people."

Ever notice how people who make these statements can never come up with any but the barest of examples - taken out of context. Sounds like a just reaction to an unjust accusation against the flag to me. Free speech does not mean complete freedom to be licentious and libelous.

44 posted on 10/02/2001 10:18:24 AM PDT by PsyOp
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She has a right to freedom of speech. But we don't have to agree with her stupid, hateful remarks. And we have freedom of speech to point out how wrong she is.
46 posted on 10/02/2001 10:19:57 AM PDT by MarkM
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So...... what's her email address?

;) Mike

47 posted on 10/02/2001 10:21:35 AM PDT by MichaelP
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My email to her:

Mrs. Traschen,

Sure, the USA has made mistakes, but what country has not?

And I suppose that you have never made any mistakes?

BTW, Mrs. Traschen, you are married aren't you?

And Mrs. Traschen, have you in any way noticed the initials and writing on the bags of rice/wheat, etc. sent to the Pakistani and even Afghanistan refugees?

Wouldn't it be better at this time to concentrate on what the USA is doing right?

Including going after the ring of terrorists who planned and perpetrated the attacks on the USA on 9-11-01?

BTW, Mrs. Trashcen, it is OK for you to admit you made a mistake in speaking out about not displaying the flags!

How dare you not let those veterans voice their right to free speech and demonstration by displaying this support of our country/flying the flag?

Yes, you can disagree with them, but after all, aren't you a citizen of the United States, enjoying the protection of the police and fire departments and services of the City of Amherst as you read this note?

Maybe you should re-think your statement and "Stand Up for America!"

Salvation
Salem, OR

50 posted on 10/02/2001 10:24:17 AM PDT by Salvation
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"If I think about the flag, I have to think about it from the point of view of those people."

Really? I wonder if she can think about it from the POV of an American. Even as an American who generally disagrees with American foreign policy.

54 posted on 10/02/2001 10:31:33 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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"free expression" ?????

I'll give her that one....as this is still a (sort of) free Country.

I can even stand for those idiots that decide to burn Old Glory...just as long as they're dipped in Tar, then wrap the flag around 'em...and Light 'em up!!!!

This waste of skin and air should never be allowed to see the light of day - - what with as many Vets as she's dumped on!

Those that gave some should haunt her until her last breath...

Those that gave all should take up from that point....

55 posted on 10/02/2001 10:32:11 AM PDT by Alabama_Wild_Man
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Sheesh is right. Liberalism in education is a threat to our country.
58 posted on 10/02/2001 10:35:45 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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The meeting had been called to settle a dispute over how often to fly 29 American flags that a group of veterans and volunteers had hung from lamp posts along the town's main thoroughfares... many local veterans lobbied for the flags to be flown for months at a time...
With several flags already flying daily at government offices, many town officials thought that any additional display should be confined to commemorative holidays, such as Flag Day and the Fourth of July.

I agree Mrs. Traschen's remarks were rather uncalled for, and quite frankly off-topic... but it does sound like these veterans, with all due respect, are a little off their rockers... This kind of garish overkill certainly does diminish the respect and solemnity due our nation's flag.

I also think that the sick individuals hounding her are psychopaths: there's a huge difference between criminal harrassment and exercising one's constitutional right to free speech.

59 posted on 10/02/2001 10:36:25 AM PDT by maggiesfarm
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This article is proof that the WSJ is no more a conservative publication than any other national fishwrap. Notice how miss professor is allowed to present herself as a martyr threatned by all those right-wingnuts out there for her "freedom of speech." The Journal's editorial page leans right, but the other 95% is SOP liberals talking to themselves.
60 posted on 10/02/2001 10:37:09 AM PDT by rdww
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Let's see here. There ISN'T ONE COUNTRY on the planet that HASN'T DONE unspeakable things to people, so should we refuse to fly ANY COUNTRY'S flag?

These fascists social engineers really make me nauseous. If they hate the US and the flag there is more than one way to leave.

Why do they stay? Because true Americans will respect their freedom of expression. Name one other country that would do the same? But that veteran is right, "what you say has consequences."

Unless you've lived in a cave the past decade, you know that if you ever said something politically incorrect you found yourself in either senstivity training or anger management!

Well those same rules should apply to those who say things like Comrade Trachens has said. I found her statements OFFENSIVE and UNCOMFORTABLE!

63 posted on 10/02/2001 10:41:08 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP
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If I think about the flag, I have to think about it from the point of view of those people."

Obviously she doesn't know when to shut up.

64 posted on 10/02/2001 10:41:31 AM PDT by RobbyS
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Had to drop her a line:

Hate America?

Do you know any better countries?

Go there, then. Leave your Ivory Tower.

You'd really like how women are treated in Islamic countries.

66 posted on 10/02/2001 10:44:12 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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Just like a leftie: No problem shooting their mouth off, but when asked to face the consequences of their stupidity, they scream "no fair!!"

What she said is protected by the first amendment, but when you shout fire in that crowded theater, ma'am, don't cry foul when you get trampled.

67 posted on 10/02/2001 10:44:14 AM PDT by SEA
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What use to keep these creeps in the closet was a moral society that would rise up in righteous indignation at the attitudes of anti-Americans. It's good to see it back as far as I am concerned. I don't agree with threats but flame me all you want, I don't believe that every opinion has merit, I don't believe that every kooky idea must be put up with by the heretofore silent majority.

If I stood in the public square extrolling the vitues of Hitler, I would expect that outrageous statement to make thinking people mad, I would expect to get flamed. Sure I would have the right to say what ever I wanted, but that in no way should negate the majorities free speech to tell me I am a putz. It is pretty silly to exercise your rights of free speech then whine at the rebuttals.

71 posted on 10/02/2001 10:53:35 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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"People are going to have a much harder time speaking their minds in this community," she says.
awww - boo-hoo, I'm sure this college professor would be shoulder to shoulder with a fellow professor that didn't tow the Marxoid line... or wish to make a display of faith - what a phony
75 posted on 10/02/2001 11:05:21 AM PDT by TheUglyAmerican
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We need to seriously look at how much taxpayer money is wasted on supporting these clowns in academia. When they are for the destruction of America, they should do it all on their own dime not mine.
81 posted on 10/02/2001 11:29:23 AM PDT by FITZ
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"What the flag is," she said on the eve of disaster, "is a symbol of terrorism and death and fear and destruction and oppression."

Lesson:

Always double check that brain is engaged before putting mouth in motion...

86 posted on 10/02/2001 11:33:45 AM PDT by Publius6961
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88 posted on 10/02/2001 11:45:34 AM PDT by hang 'em
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As a little girl, she had attended antiwar protests with her late father, a World War II veteran

Typical liberal liar. At 45 she would not have been a "little girl" during vietnam war protests.

92 posted on 10/02/2001 11:57:15 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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"People are going to have a much harder time speaking their minds in this community," she says

No, what it means is that true patriots will be more emboldened to show love for their country and not be so easily intimated by the acadamaniacs. For decades, these spiteful elistists have been trying to enlist our young to their Marxist, anti-American crusades. It's time they learned that folks are fed up with it.

98 posted on 10/02/2001 12:08:07 PM PDT by be-baw
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