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Fired Conservative Columnist Anne Coulter Getting 'Great Publicity'
CNS News ^ | 10/2/01

Posted on 10/02/2001 9:14:04 AM PDT by truthandlife

Conservative columnist Ann Coulter, fired from her contributing editor perch at the National Review Online, blames it on free-speech hysteria in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks. In a recent online column, Coulter opined that the United States should respond forcefully to the terrorist attacks: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity," she said. The comment provoked an uproar, and the National Review Online subsequently refused to run another Coulter piece in which she referred to "swarthy males." When Coulter complained, she was fired. Tuesday's Washington Post quotes Coulter as saying she doesn't need friends like that. "Every once in awhile they'll throw one of their people to the wolves to get good press in left-wing publications," she told the newspaper. National Review Online Editor Jonah Goldberg told the Post, "We didn't feel we wanted to be associated with the comments expressed in those two columns." Coulter told the Washington Post she's getting great publicity as a result of the flap.


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To: SLJP
Tsk, tsk. Here I thought we were engaging in friendly banter, and then you go and post that diatribe at #350. My comments must have hit a little too close to home. I did not think the name of my undergraduate school was relevent. Since you make an issue of it, I attended Haverford College outside of Philadelphia. I had the choice between that or Swarthmore, and found Haverford more appealing. YES I scoff at doctorates of education. I make no judgment about your father; I don't know the man. But my experience with DE's is that they went that route because they couldn't cut it in a regular PhD program. If your father is an exception, then bully for him.

Care to share your academic credentials with me? Why not share your GRE scores as well?

I am really impressed with someone who hyphenates "freelance."

And I'm really impressed with someone who says "ya" instead of "you". Or "yeah" instead of "yes". If you wish to nitpick, I can pick you apart as well. Perhaps you would like to explore the grammar and usage of the hyphen in such gems as "...if they were so all-fired in disagreement with it!". What about "...and like I said earlier..." Don't you mean as I said earlier? This is, in case you failed to notice, an internet forum. I didn't spend all that much time carefully proofing my replies to you. Still want to quibble about my writing, O ye who lives in a glass house?

washed out by your obvious lack of knowledge

Oh, really? And how, precisely, have I demonstrated a lack of knowledge? This appears to be an empty insult from someone with nothing else to say. I'd stack my knowledge against yours any time, sweetie.

So you had papers published in conjunction with your education

Bzzt. Wrong. I was not referring, nor did I say I was referring, to academic publications.

I know that I would edit the snot out of your writing, personally.

More empty insults. You are hardly in a position to judge, having seen only my quickly typed responses on a message board. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Would you prefer that I ignore my expertise in this area? Would you prefer that I pretended that I am not an established professional?

Not at all. I simply disagree that it takes professional credentials in order to voice an intelligent opinion on Coulter's writing. That is about as rational as my discounting your opinion because you are a Free Republic newbie would be.

You have a running pattern of pointing to certain aspects of your life to try to prove a point in this thread. It does not impress.

YOU tout your credentials, question mine, and then wonder that I answer your challenge? Please.

Like I said, your writing speaks for itself. So does your ignorance. I could sit here all day and keep up the verbal volleys, but I have better things to do. If you actually had any credibility, it might be different. However, you have none.

Amazing. You continue to assert this, and yet you have proffered no evidence of either my poor writing skills (aside from a stray hyphen) or my ignorance. I suppose my true crime is that I have disagreed with you, and have vigorously defended my position. Welcome to Free Republic, babe. Don't expect anyone to kiss your tush just because you have such a lofty opinion of yourself.

I am working on a book right now, too -- and it already has a publisher that I'm working with, so don't even go there!

Good for you. I considered a career in writing, too. But there is more money to be made in the business world. When I sell my company and retire on my ranch, then I'll take up serious writing again. Freepmail me when your book is published, and I'll write a review for you on Amazon.

I would say that yes -- I am more qualified to make a proper observation than you are.

Equally qualified, yes. But certainly not more so. Unless you yourself are Ann Coulter.

381 posted on 10/02/2001 8:22:10 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: editor-surveyor
Well, simple it may be, but you have failed that task miserably.

Merely asserting this does not make it true. You think it is satire? Prove your point.

382 posted on 10/02/2001 8:23:53 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: FormerLurker
Quit responding on a basis of emotions and read the full text of her comments. I am providing a link so you can read the column yourself and refrain from ignorance any longer than necessary ........... http://www.uclick.com/client/ven/ac/
383 posted on 10/02/2001 8:48:32 PM PDT by dmarque
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To: malarski
Why not read the full context of her column rather than act out in an emotional tiraid ? Provided for your convenince...............Below, http://www.uclick.com/client/ven/ac/
384 posted on 10/02/2001 8:52:14 PM PDT by dmarque
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To: ExpandNATO
Paine was the primary example of the "few" who did support the French Revolutionary model.
One can also (with qualifications) add Jefferson and Franklin to the list. However, this is not representative of the whole bunch. The American public's response to Paine, as he became more fervent, should sufice to show that his views were not shared by a majority of the populace, the popularity of Common Sense notwithstanding.
385 posted on 10/02/2001 9:01:55 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: SLJP
but I will point out one in particular that is glaring: your "interchangeable" use of "that" and "which." They are not interchangeable, dear angelo!

Out of curiosity, I skimmed through my replies on this thread, and failed to uncover any "'interchangeable' use of 'that' and 'which'". Perhaps, due to the late hour, I simply missed it. What of it? Your misuse of "like" for "as" is more glaring error, especially coming from (ahem) a professional writer. Do you want me even to bring up ending phrases with prepositions? If my piddly little grammatical errors make me an ignorant dolt who has not the first clue about writing, then you're in the same boat, honey.

if you ask me, it's a desperate attempt to cover a major screw-up on your part.

Amusing. You are wrong, and you can't even admit you're wrong. The reader is better able to define the meaning of the text than the author? How very deconstructionist of you. You can't pick up sarcasm in my comment, and yet I'm supposed to believe you have read Ann Coulter's intent correctly?

If it was truly was meant as sarcasm, you did a lousy job in presenting it. That is not my fault, but yours!

You're right. I should have put a large [/sarcasm] tag at the end, so that no one could miss my intent. [/sarcasm]

My favorite poet is Emily Dickinson.

Well that explains a great deal. You and I are oil and water. I dropped a course because the professor assigned 300 pages of Emily Dickinson poetry. I read about 30 pages and threw the book across the room. Ugh. My favorite is probably William Blake, although I have a fondness for 17th century poets such as Donne, Herbert and Milton. Favorite author is Thomas Hardy, with James Joyce a distant second. Faulkner is my favorite American writer. I am much more partial to British writers, though. Bach's Illusions is a fun read, but I would hardly rank it up there with the all time greats. Favorite novel is Hardy's Return of the Native. Beautiful prose. Playwright, besides Shakespeare of course, is Marlowe (although I had a great deal of fun with the Restoration comedies).

;-}

Thanks for the smiley. I've enjoyed this, despite the rancorous tone of your #350. I appreciate the conversation of intelligent people. And I would classify you as such, despite your remarkably erroneous opinion of me. ;o)

386 posted on 10/02/2001 9:07:31 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: SLJP
Notice how he scampered off when confronted with his lack of evidence and non-existent writing skills?

I told you I'd check back in later, didn't I? I had to leave my office and head home for dinner. My wife, who stays home with our 3 1/2 year old son and 1 year old daughter, appreciates me getting home at a regular time each day. If you have children, you understand why! After we got the kids to bed, I had a late meeting with a business associate who is in from out of state. Once I got back home, I logged on to FR. Your expected replies were my first order of business.

Given his obsessive interest in the craft of writing

Obsessive, eh? In three years on FR, this is the first occasion I have discussed writing. It is hardly a major concern of mine at this point in my life. Too busy with other things, frankly.

angelo's "personal style" seems to be, "if you can't beat 'em, make fun of 'em."

Most of the "making fun of" seems to be emanating from your keyboard, sweetie.

Perhaps his "entrepreneurship" gives him the satisfaction he so desperately craves.

My daughter is teething. What I most desperately crave is sleep. Good night.

387 posted on 10/02/2001 9:19:17 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: ClassicConservative
Your anal-retentiveness is showing and thanks all the same but I don't bother to play wordsmith games with mean-spirited dorks. [Too much like entering an arse-kicking contest with a peg-leg -- or a battle of wits with someone only ever issued half of the regulation weapons]
388 posted on 10/02/2001 9:52:40 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: Critter
I agree Critter. It sure was .
389 posted on 10/02/2001 10:01:05 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Jim Scott
I saw Ann Coulter's words about "killing their leaders and converting them to Christianity" in that now-famous column

Bush said we were going to kill their leaders so I don't see the problem of Ann Coulter and the people following the terrorists need to be converted to something other than what their leaders have been preaching, there's nothing really wrong with converting people to Christianity if it keeps them from mass murder. Sort of like the Nazis, we killed their leaders and then we converted the people away from Nazism.

390 posted on 10/02/2001 10:12:25 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: angelo
I had written a long, exhaustive reply to your posts, but then picked up my lapper to move it and accidentally engaged the soft boot button, thereby annihilating half an hour's worth of typing. (Interrupted by a fiance, two dogs, and the telephone throughout!)

I may attempt to re-create said diatribe tomorrow, as my pain meds are muddling my mind and I expect to be asleep shortly. However, I cannot leave this post without defending my father. (Never, ever insinuate unflattering things about a first-born daughter's father! It does not go over well, I assure you.) It is highly presumptuous of you to presume that an Ed.D is any less "lofty" than a Ph.D. I would love to see you try to breeze through George Peabody College for Teachers (now part of Vanderbilt University) and their doctoral program. (You would have my father as a professor, should you take summer courses!) I can assure you that my father is perfectly able to "cut" any Ph.D program that is thrown at him. He has never graduated at any level less than the top of his class, from high school on up. He has an IQ of 172, and is as smart as the proverbial whip.

My mother's IQ is in the genius range as well (she's the parish nurse and an ordained minister at our church), and all three of us girls were expected to bring home nothing less than straight A's. In college, only 4.0 was acceptable. It was tedious, but thankfully I enjoyed my studies for the most part. The ones I didn't enjoy were tolerated long enough to "make the grade," then be thankfully dismissed. We dared not disappoint. It wasn't an unreasonable demand of any of us, actually. If we couldn't have cut it, they would not have demanded it.

Now I am extremely sleepy, and must be off. I am typing by rote as it is. Perhaps I shall try my original response to you on the morrow. (Oh -- one more thing that is horribly exasperating: having people throw my "newbie" status in my face every time I turn around. Who cares how long anyone has been a registered member on this board?! It shouldn't matter. I am not mentally or intellectually hampered simply because I didn't register on the FReepers' board until last month! Capiche?)

Have a good night's sleep. Thank you for the compliment. I don't consider you an intellectual midget either. (That is high praise coming from me.) *G*

FRegards,
SLJP (aka Beep)

391 posted on 10/02/2001 11:07:18 PM PDT by Beep
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To: Archaeus, xzins
TRUTH: The Father, Son (Sublime Truth), The Holy Spirit

TRUTH: Allah is a false-god (front for Satan)

392 posted on 10/03/2001 7:34:42 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: Apogee
I for one am very glad that Paine's and Jefferson's views were in the minority. The United States would be much poorer, more fractured and more repressive had they had more followers (much more like France).
393 posted on 10/03/2001 7:44:05 AM PDT by ExpandNATO
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To: mgc1122
. and its telling the liberals who were whining about cencorship as attempts to get maher's advertisers pulled were made are totally silent on this.

You're way off base. I heard very prominent conservatives, not liberals, defending Maher's free speech...(David Horowitz, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity etc.)....as they should.

Yes, you have the right to not watch or listen to them, but what gives you the right to take that away from them and us simply because YOU don't like it?

There are WAY too many people that would like to do just that to this forum, and beleive me if FreeReublic had advertisers there would be the same battle here.

Be careful what you wish for.

394 posted on 10/03/2001 7:47:56 AM PDT by lewislynn
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To: TexRef
Well, I've finally changed my wallpaper on my moniter.
395 posted on 10/03/2001 7:56:35 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: SLJP
I had written a long, exhaustive reply to your posts, but then picked up my lapper to move it and accidentally engaged the soft boot button, thereby annihilating half an hour's worth of typing. (Interrupted by a fiance, two dogs, and the telephone throughout!)

What an awful, sinking feeling when you realize that a long, exhaustive reply has gone *poof!* into oblivion. I've had similar things happen to me when my browser freezes up just as I am about to post something. There is not even an opportunity to cut-and-paste it into a text file. I can see the text right in front of me, but the error message gives me no choice but to shut down the program.

I apologize for my comments about your father. I do not know him, and it was unfair of me to disparage him. It is true that my experience with DE's has not been a positive one. But that does not justify my making assumptions about your dad. From what you say, he sounds like a great teacher. Which is good, because we need all of them we can get! (Especially if he is a conservative! ;o)

Who cares how long anyone has been a registered member on this board?! It shouldn't matter.

I agree. I only brought it up by way of comparison to your questioning of my qualifications. Free Republic thrives on a continual stream of new, passionate members. It is trite but true: we were all newbies once. If you encounter oldtimers who question what you say based upon your "member since" date, please understand that we regularly attract disruptors who register new screen names and abuse the forum. So we do tend to be a little suspicious of newcomers until they have a track record of posting, and we have had a chance to feel them out.

This thread is getting long. If you like, you can reply to me via freepmail. That way we can avoid reloading this thread again and again.

Shalom.

396 posted on 10/03/2001 10:10:24 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: OWK
Sorry... but Ann was wrong.

No need to apologise. I quite agree.

397 posted on 10/04/2001 9:30:24 PM PDT by nobody in particular
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