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Fired Conservative Columnist Anne Coulter Getting 'Great Publicity'
CNS News ^ | 10/2/01

Posted on 10/02/2001 9:14:04 AM PDT by truthandlife

Conservative columnist Ann Coulter, fired from her contributing editor perch at the National Review Online, blames it on free-speech hysteria in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks. In a recent online column, Coulter opined that the United States should respond forcefully to the terrorist attacks: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity," she said. The comment provoked an uproar, and the National Review Online subsequently refused to run another Coulter piece in which she referred to "swarthy males." When Coulter complained, she was fired. Tuesday's Washington Post quotes Coulter as saying she doesn't need friends like that. "Every once in awhile they'll throw one of their people to the wolves to get good press in left-wing publications," she told the newspaper. National Review Online Editor Jonah Goldberg told the Post, "We didn't feel we wanted to be associated with the comments expressed in those two columns." Coulter told the Washington Post she's getting great publicity as a result of the flap.


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To: onehipdad
"But they are countries where personal freedoms (choice, association and expression)are culturally suppressed."

According to the Cato institute Hong Kong has a higher index of economic freedom than the US.

If the freedoms that are culturally suppressed are those that in this country allow an image of the Virgin to be covered with feces or those that allow feminists and multiculturalists to go on a rampage then I think that maybe our society may not be superior to those East Asian societies. If what those countries suppress are those forces that attempt to destroy the society from within (read feminism, Marxism, Trotskyism, multiculturalism, etc.) then I say more power to them.

341 posted on 10/02/2001 2:11:54 PM PDT by Marduk
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To: another1
Many people have pointed out poor Ann's loss here. Strangely enough, Ted Olson (Barbara's husband) probably felt the loss at least as deeply as poor Ann, but I have not heard or seen him express his sorrow with similar brilliantly shrieking "hyperbole."

Ted is an amazing person, and so was Barbara. I never heard either of them say one unkind thing about anyone. (That wasn't based on fact, anyway. *G*) But people handle grief in different ways. Ted doesn't have a syndicated column to crank out, either, which is nothing against Ted, believe me. But it can be a pressing business, and I'm sure Ann was feeling the pressure, on top of the incredible sadness and outrage. You simply cannot compare the two. It isn't fair to either of them. (Ann was outraged for Ted, too, by the way. As she said, losing Barbara -- for him -- was a "human amputation.")

342 posted on 10/02/2001 2:16:21 PM PDT by Beep
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To: exnavy
you sound like a liberal.

You sound like a person who speaks before he thinks.

343 posted on 10/02/2001 2:18:15 PM PDT by Frank Chodorov
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To: SLJP
Essays?? Essays?! OMG! You are killing me!! Are you a paid, published writer? Have you ever written a column for publication? Have you taken courses on journalism or freelance writing? No?? I have. On all counts.

Journalistic snobbery, eh? Only someone who is a paid, published writer could possibly have the extensive training and acuity necessary to detect the subtleties of the Coulterian style. Get over yourself. Paid hacks are a dime a dozen.

Since you scoff at my supposed lack of qualifications, and ask on what basis I dare to make a judgment about someone else's writing, let me present my curriculum vitae. I attended one of the top two or three small liberal arts colleges in the country. I graduated with a major in British literature and a minor in mathematics. I undertook graduate coursework in philosophy and theology before being accepted to the University of Chicago's Ph.D. program in English literature (generally regarded as one of the top five programs in the country). I declined admission in favor of pursuing a career as a greedy capitalist entrepreneur. I have in fact been published in a few different journals, and have been a free-lance contributor to the local fishwrap.

Have I met your lofty standard to be worthy of having an opinion? I await your judgment with bated breath. (More sarcasm, in case you didn't get it).

Doctorate of education? Don't even get me started. Funny, you didn't strike me as the type to need Daddy's assurance that you were right.

344 posted on 10/02/2001 2:23:54 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: ArcLight
I'm glad Jonah Goldberg is maintaining the tradition, standing athwart the path of vulgarity and yelling "Stop!"

That phrase is as original as most of Trixie Jr.'s plagarized stuff!

345 posted on 10/02/2001 2:30:43 PM PDT by bulldog905
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To: Spiff
Irrelevant historical fact to the current debate.

When you barged into my reply to editor-surveyor and made an issue of the possibility of forced conversions to Christianity, you made the historical facts material.

346 posted on 10/02/2001 2:34:41 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: SLJP
P.S. You should be grateful that you made sooooooo many grammatical errors in that last post (and others) to me that pointing them out and referencing them would have taken up entirely too much space, besides being too time-consuming! Holy Strunk's!!

Surely a master of prose such as yourself understands that a writer may freely choose to violate the rules of grammar when it suits his purposes? Save the grammar books for the high school students. A skilled writer will on occasion start sentences with a conjunction or use sentence fragments. Sometimes it is useful in making a point or for stylistic reasons. This is not uncommon in literature. Umm, you did study literature at some point along to way to getting that journalism degree, didn't you? A survey course in Major British Writers, perhaps?

347 posted on 10/02/2001 2:42:31 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: SLJP
It seems to me that your writing expertise has failed you!! ROFLMAO!!

If you are so incapable of detecting authorial intent, then I question your judgment on Coulter's writing.

It has been a pleasure jousting with you. I'm going offline now, but will check back in later tonight.

348 posted on 10/02/2001 2:44:44 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: ArcLight
It was reading the sober, wry essays in NR that turned me into a conservative; by comparison, everything on the left seemed like shrill, hateful billingsgate. NR's studious avoidance of such bitter rantings is one reason it's one of the most respected opinion magazines in the country. I'm glad Jonah Goldberg is maintaining the tradition, standing athwart the path of vulgarity and yelling "Stop!"

I think this qualifies as "satire." If Jonah's is standing athwart the path of vulgarity and yelling "Stop!" it's only because he's afraid he won't be able to get on board himself.

From where I sit your view of the magazine is at least five years out of date, and doesn't much reflect the online version or Jonah's contributions.

349 posted on 10/02/2001 2:48:38 PM PDT by x
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To: angelo
"Yada yada yada. . . . " Attending unnamed institutions of higher learning, and even graduating, doesn't necessarily mean that you learned how to write. BTW -- I did not "need Daddy's assurance" as we had already discussed Ann's column at length. You're a fine one to talk about turning up one's nose. Scoffing at a doctorate of education from THE -- yes THE -- leading institution of higher learning for teachers? That's pathetic. He also has a degree in English, and one in French. Care to scoff about those too? Sheeeesh!!

Oh yeah, I am really impressed with someone who hyphenates "freelance." LOL! Your curriculum vitae and list of credentials is washed out by your obvious lack of knowledge. You have displayed your writing ineptitude all over this thread. So you had papers published in conjunction with your education. Everybody does. They are usually all edited to death and corrected before publication, which I am sure happened in your case as well. I know that I would edit the snot out of your writing, personally.

"Journalistic snobbery?" No. Would you prefer that I ignore my expertise in this area? Would you prefer that I pretended that I am not an established professional? Sorry -- won't do it. If you think that's snobbery, that's your right. I think you're pitiful, if that's the only way you can respond to it.

You have a running pattern of pointing to certain aspects of your life to try to prove a point in this thread. It does not impress. Like I said, your writing speaks for itself. So does your ignorance. I could sit here all day and keep up the verbal volleys, but I have better things to do. If you actually had any credibility, it might be different. However, you have none.

One more thing, sweetie -- I have had my work published in several books. Not journals. Not just newspapers. Books. (Yes, those are sentence fragments. Artistic license. I know I'm using them, and I am doing so deliberately.) I am working on a book right now, too -- and it already has a publisher that I'm working with, so don't even go there!

Considering the combination of all these elements, plus the ones I will not get into here, I would say that yes -- I am more qualified to make a proper observation than you are. If that hurts your l'il feelings, I'm sorry for you.

350 posted on 10/02/2001 2:53:32 PM PDT by Beep
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To: truthandlife
She is the conservatives Bill Maher!
351 posted on 10/02/2001 2:58:09 PM PDT by Aedammair
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To: angelo; SLJP; Spiff
"...It is simple to compare the meaning of the word with a specific piece of writing and to determine whether or not that writing fits the definition of 'satire'..."

Well, simple it may be, but you have failed that task miserably. - Perhaps the reason is that you you were so focused on the 'Christian conversion' that you lost track of the fact that we have never been known for 'killing their leaders.'

352 posted on 10/02/2001 3:06:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: angelo
I know about starting starting sentences with conjunctions and using sentence fragments. I do that myself. However, that is not what I was referring to regarding your posts! I couldn't possibly name them all; my ISP is running too slow for me to waste all that time, but I will point out one in particular that is glaring: your "interchangeable" use of "that" and "which." They are not interchangeable, dear angelo! Your usage of them as such is distracting and disturbing.

Now, as to your coy reply about my not being able to read sarcasm in your post -- if you ask me, it's a desperate attempt to cover a major screw-up on your part. If it was truly was meant as sarcasm, you did a lousy job in presenting it. That is not my fault, but yours! And yes, I studied literature of all genres ad nauseum. So what? My favorite poet is Emily Dickinson. My favorite authors are Richard Bach (Illusions, not the seagull thing), Dante Alighieri, and William Faulkner. Playwright, besides Shakespeare -- Jean-Paul Sartre.

Any more ignorant questions?? ;-}

353 posted on 10/02/2001 3:11:45 PM PDT by Beep
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To: 1Old Pro
"swarthy males." = darker skinned"...

Is there a separate jumping off point for guineas, frogs, dagos and wetbacks? What an idiot; in this instance at least.

354 posted on 10/02/2001 3:16:18 PM PDT by Aedammair
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To: gfactor
in capitalism, the boss is the boss, the owner is the owner.

Until he, say, wants to hire only white folks. . .

355 posted on 10/02/2001 3:16:25 PM PDT by William Terrell
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To: truthandlife
Let me go head and add my $.02!!

You Go Girl!!!

356 posted on 10/02/2001 3:18:31 PM PDT by HoustonKevin
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To: truthandlife
Those were stupid comments. This is America. You have the Freedom to write stupid and the editors have the Freedom to fire you for it. And now Coulter has the Freedom to have a lib like temper tantrum over it.
357 posted on 10/02/2001 3:24:41 PM PDT by not NOW
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To: editor-surveyor; angelo; Spiff
Thank you!! Angelo seems to operate best by talking out of both sides of his mouth! Notice how he scampered off when confronted with his lack of evidence and non-existent writing skills? LOL!! Poor angelo. There are many "wannabe" writers out there who just don't have what it takes. Given his obsessive interest in the craft of writing, I would venture a guess that he is in that category. One can study writing until the cows come home, but if it is not an inborn skill, then the best one can hope for is a cheap imitation of writing talent. I've seen it oh-so-many times. In fact, I have had to edit their work. My first experience in the worldwide publishing business was with Thomas Nelson Publishers, here in Nashville. I was a copy editor. I had the privilege of editing pieces submitted by the clergy; most of them had wonderful content, but they needed editing and a lot of "punching up."

angelo's "personal style" seems to be, "if you can't beat 'em, make fun of 'em." How junior high of him!! ROFL! I feel sorry for the chap. Perhaps his "entrepreneurship" gives him the satisfaction he so desperately craves. I certainly hope so. ;-}

358 posted on 10/02/2001 3:31:34 PM PDT by Beep
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To: dubyaismypresident
How old is Anne Coulter? Where did she graduate from college? Is she single?
359 posted on 10/02/2001 3:38:28 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Don
Why did you print them, then?

I think he expected her to retract them at a later time. When she didn't, they forced her to leave.

360 posted on 10/02/2001 3:41:10 PM PDT by xm177e2
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