Posted on 10/02/2001 6:22:46 AM PDT by Liz
Yeah, "Wild Bill" Donovan was really anti-American.
Donovan was OSS. He hated what was done to his organization after the war.
CNN’s anorexia poster girl Judy Woodruff interviewed Tom Clancy on the evening of 9/11?
Tom brought up the subject of the CLINTON decimation of US HUMAN INTELLIGENCE capabilities – that going all the way back to Sun Tsu, SPIES are a necessary part of the information gathering process. He mentioned that if we’d had a few spies and spooks out there in this increasingly dangerous world, we MIGHT have gotten one of them close to the perpetrator and been able to interdict the MURDER of perhaps 15,000 Americans in the incredible tragedy we witnessed this morning.
I think it’s safe to say that Clancy knows a bit about the subjects on which he writes.
Tom then tagged CNN by name as one of the news agencies which greeted Clinton’s decimation of the intelligence community with approval, continuing to say that they COULD have spoken out TO OPPOSE HIM but failed to do so. Tom’s rather clear implication was that CNN played a role in today’s catastrophe.
Judy VISIBLY RECOILED – and quickly concluded the interview after babbling something about journalists never taking positions on such matters. Her expression made it clear that she was NOT happy with Tom.
Clancy was RIGHT ON THE MARK and until we DO beef up those assets, it’s gonna happen again – and probably sooner than later.
And do you suppose there is some sinister significance to the fact that this happened on 9-11 (911!)? Are these people THAT sick? Don’t bother responding as that was a rhetorical question.
Let’s all pray – and shed a tear or two -- for the lost firefighters, police officers, innocent citizens and their families. Until this is behind us, we must put aside as many of our partisan differences as our principles will allow.
And we must also pray that our precious Constitution does not become one of the first victims of this SICKENING and senseless act.
Little Tommy Daschle kept the lid on getting Bush's appointees in.....not the first time Klintoon holdovers caused trouble.....
Heard about this....discussed on the forum earlier....
So, where are the nukes and the Anthrax? Did it strike Ben Ladin as a good idea to blow off one of his best expensive tricks, in order to alert the West, get the dogs baying after his ass in Afganistan, and get the vaccine flowing here in the USA? So a stirred up america is good, but a stirred up and crippled america is against your terrorist ethics?
We should not be surprised that these Islamic fundamentalists have many of the same goals as the Comintern. As Jung pointed out is his "Psychological Types", religious fanatics and socialists are psychological peas in a pod.
This does not answer my original question about psychology. What kind of Islamic fundamentalists sit around engaging in Western decadence for a couple of years, taking flying lessons, spend their last night partying, and then slam themselves into buildings?
Do you really think that it is the CIA's interest to look like a toothless and incompetent agency?
After the multi-trillion dollar failure to predict the military compentency and resolve of the soviets, and the fall of the Berlin Wall, and the Fishman trial investigation, none of which, incidently, can be attributed to loss of human assets in place in the Mid-East, what could they possibly do to appear more incompetent? Obviously, no amount of apparent incompetence has the slightest affect on their public support, or ever will while the press behaves like government whores.
Do oil companies profit when oil prices fall?
Since when do oil prices fall when there is a war in the Mid-East?
The oil reserves in the ANWR aren't jack-squat compared to the vast fields of the Middle East and Central Asia. What oil company would wat to cause a war in the region in which its inventory resides? Think about it.
Think about it yourself. The oil companies jack up the price of oil at the pump every time there's such a crisis, and no amount of fooling around on the geo-political surface of the planet does anything to hurt the supply of geographic resources underground--but it sure re-allocates the ownership of same, and every time it does, one or another oil company is the recipient of new largess. The oil companies are not a monolith. Some profit and others lose from major political upheavals.
You, my friend, should think about who actually profits, rather than who you like to blame.
And who would that be? Is Ben Ladin profiting from a global manhunt for Ben Ladin, by a superpower he could have crippled, but chose not to? Is the taliban about to profit from a highly predictable invasion and overthrow of it's own government? "Create Mayhem", you say? Why so little of it? And why, so predictably, mostly in the terrorists' back yard?
Well take that argument up with Mr. Orwell. He said it first, I am just pointing out how his statement can be applied to how the PC culture has brainwashed many Americans into believing doing nothing is always the best route to take.
BTW welcome to our forum, 9/25/01 registration!
Many people were also not surprised by this attack, that doesn't mean they had the power to stop it.
Maybe your mommy can kiss your well-deserved lumps better?
"A lack of resources does not seem to be crippling the CIA in Colombia and other nations where we are intervening militarily under the excuse of the 'war on drugs.' Don't believe for a second that the CIA doesn't have all the money it will ever need. If congress doesn't grant them enough money, they just sell drugs to get it." Dear Hidy, please share with us your 'sources' for this. Perhaps the famous Criptic Institute?...LOL. Or maybe it is Maxine Watersand her drug addled voter forum? But please, share with us.
The Kerry Hearing of the US Congress. The Hitz report of the CIA and the subsequent admissions by its chief author before the US Congress. "The Politics of Heroin" by McCoy, a respected scholar. Ex-CIA, ex-LAcop & ex-DEA agents on record.
It was reported within a few days of the Sept 11th attacks that the CIA
informed the INS that Mohammed Atta had entered the U.S.
The INS stated there was nothing they could do since atta had already entered the country.
They then promptly notified the FBI that Atta was in the U.S... This was TWO WEEKS prior to Sept 11th.
My "WHAT WENT WRONG" question is this:
How did he manage to buy an airline ticket using his real name, Mohammed Atta, without setting off any warnings.
Articles right after the 11th show that he used his own name to purchase tickets TO Portland, Maine and then to Boston,
from where he bought still a third ticket, using his own name a third time, to then board the fatal flight.
How in the hell did this get by the FBI who had sought him out for TWO WEEKS prior to Sept 11th ?
Don't know who your Reps are, but perhaps you ought to ask them.
See if they have any answers worth repeating. Then post them here.
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