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Navy Dispatching Fourth U.S. Carrier, but Not With Its Usual Complement of Warplanes
AP ^ | 10/02/01 | Robert Burns

Posted on 10/02/2001 12:05:40 AM PDT by kattracks

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Navy is committing a fourth aircraft carrier to President Bush's war on terrorism, but not in the usual way.

The USS Kitty Hawk, which departed its homeport in Japan on Monday, will be available in or near the Arabian Sea as a floating base for other forces, defense officials said.

An aircraft carrier normally has about 75 Navy planes on board for a variety of missions, including fighters for land attack.

In keeping with the administration's policy of not discussing details of military activities related to the anti-terror campaign, the Navy would not comment Monday except to say the Kitty Hawk does not have its usual number of aircraft aboard.

Two defense officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the Kitty Hawk was headed toward the Arabian Sea to be available for use by U.S. special operations forces or by Navy aircraft other than its own.

Lt. Cmdr. Jeff Gordon, a spokesman at Pacific Fleet headquarters in Hawaii, said the Kitty Hawk left a portion of its air wing behind at Atsugi Air Base in Japan when it departed. He said he could not provide more details.

One defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the Kitty Hawk left Yokosuka Naval Base outside of Tokyo with a "representative mix" of strike and support planes on board, including combat aircraft like the F-18 Hornet and F-14 Tomcat. He would not say how many planes were on board but made clear it was much fewer than normal.

A carrier has fighter aircraft aboard not only for offensive strikes but also to help defend itself.

Other than Afghanistan, U.S. officials have refused to discuss which nations might be military targets. Secretary of State Colin Powell said the first phase of retaliation will be aimed at Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network. In an interview on "CBS Evening News," Powell would not rule out a strike against Iraq.

Bush "has ruled nothing out with respect to second, third or fourth phases of our campaign militarily," Powell told CBS. "What we really have to do is shut down terrorism, not just find a single place to take revenge out on, or a group of people to take revenge out on."

The Kitty Hawk is the only one of the Navy's 12 carriers to be stationed permanently abroad. If, in combat operations against Afghanistan, the Kitty Hawk were used primarily as a launch platform for other kinds of U.S. forces, it would be unusual but not unprecedented.

When U.S. forces assembled in the Caribbean Sea for a planned invasion of Haiti in the early 1990s, one aircraft carrier had soldiers from the Army's 10th Mountain Division on board instead of its full air wing. Another carrier had special operations forces aboard.

Two aircraft carrier battle groups - the USS Carl Vinson and the USS Enterprise - already are in the Arabian Sea or Persian Gulf, and a third - the USS Theodore Roosevelt - is headed there via the Mediterranean Sea.

Bush on Monday mentioned the growing U.S. naval firepower converging on the region near Afghanistan.

"On the military front we're making progress," Bush said in remarks at the Federal Emergency Management Agency. "We've deployed 29,000 military personnel in two carrier battle groups as well as an Amphibious Ready Group and several hundred military aircraft."

An Amphibious Ready Group is a self-contained contingent of 2,100 Marines aboard Navy ships. The core of the Marine group with the Vinson is the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit.

In addition to the naval forces in the Persian Gulf and Arabian Sea, the Pentagon has dispatched more than 100 additional Air Force planes to the region since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. They are based in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain and other Gulf nations.


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1 posted on 10/02/2001 12:05:40 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Yeah, you need to free up space for those B-25s. We'll show those lousy...

Wait, wrong war...

2 posted on 10/02/2001 12:32:38 AM PDT by AzSteven
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To: AzSteven
I imagine the aircraft in Japan were cannabalized to get underway.
3 posted on 10/02/2001 12:37:27 AM PDT by dbbeebs
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To: dbbeebs
"cannibalized"
4 posted on 10/02/2001 12:38:36 AM PDT by dbbeebs
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To: kattracks
I suspect the other carriers are not able to carry enough armament for the kind of pounding they're fixing to unleash.

This Kitty is not the purring type.

5 posted on 10/02/2001 12:48:22 AM PDT by Dallas
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To: kattracks
Loose lips sink ships. Shame on AP and CNN.
6 posted on 10/02/2001 1:15:36 AM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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To: kattracks
Her deck is clean. However, that is NO indication of what's below decks. Just because the deck isn't littered with aircraft doesn't mean diddly. There's plenty of room below for lots of aircraft.

And I doubt that any aircraft were cannibalized. They're simply being deployed one at a time on new missions - in a way that doesn't attract a lot of press attention.

Michael

7 posted on 10/02/2001 8:21:32 AM PDT by Wright is right!
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To: kattracks
We are seeing the pebble start its long journey down the mountain and soon, it is going to be a landside. We are just getting ready to see someting we never thought we would. We have a man in the WH with AMERICA at the heart, not a deversion from a woman problem as was the case with the Clintons. Let us all keep President Bush in our prayers that his decisions will be the right ones. The Talaban is fixin to find out what it is all about to hide the man who ordered the killing of thousands of Americans. God is with us.
8 posted on 10/02/2001 8:33:05 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: Terrorista Nada
bump...

In order to be effective this war cannot have a sofa-view-seat on the evening news. In order to be effective we need 24x7 capabilities to land delta/commandos anywhere around the globe, get in, whoop ass, get out, and then maintain deniability.

We need to keep these groups off balance and wondering what it was that actually was that light at the end of the tunnel that ran them over.

From a PR perspective this is not what the public wants but is the most effective way to meet this challenge.

(sarcasm) I'm surprised CNN has not dispatched a helicopter to tail these carriers... (/sarcasm)

9 posted on 10/02/2001 8:46:32 AM PDT by taxbreak
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To: AzSteven
One carrier task group, perhaps the Kitty Hawk, will serve as the base of operations for the commando units, which will be routinely inserted by long-range choppers across the thin strip of Pakistan that separates Afghanistan from the Arabian Sea. These units, unlike the LRPs currently operating in Afghanistan, will have suffienct men and firepower, along with air cover, to carry out single-target missions -- i.e., attacking and destroying a terrorist training camp then being extracted to the off-shore carrier task group. While special forces carry out such attacks repeatedly, LRPs will continue searching for Osama bin Laden, and, presumably, the three other carrier task groups in the Arabian Sea will use their aircraft as cover for the ground units and, with F117s and B52s from Diego Garcia, for bombing selected targets in Kandahar, Jalalabad and Kabul. We're about to witness a 21st Century war against a 16th Century opponent. What are the reinforced air units for in Saudi, Kuwait and elsewhere in the Middle East? Contingency. If someone -- like Iraq -- tries to intervene or take advantage, there'll be plenty of U.S. force to give them second and third thoughts.
10 posted on 10/02/2001 9:04:04 AM PDT by Whilom
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To: taxbreak
CNN is even showing cutaway views of the carrier below decks ... just the intel the terrorists need for another U.S.S. Cole type bombing.
11 posted on 10/02/2001 9:10:07 AM PDT by Terrorista Nada
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To: kattracks
USS Ogden LPD 5, ARG Bump!

Continuing to do us proud. Part of me will always be out there with all of you. Godspeed.

12 posted on 10/02/2001 9:42:41 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Terrorista Nada
No biggie you can find that info at Janes and in most libraries - right or wrong.
13 posted on 10/02/2001 9:48:52 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Terrorista Nada
just the intel the terrorists need for another U.S.S. Cole type bombing.

They'd never get within 200 miles of the carrier.

14 posted on 10/02/2001 9:55:24 AM PDT by Willie Green
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