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Access Denied: FBI search blocked, Agents wanted to look at hard drive
MSNBC.com/Newsweek ^ | 10/1/01 | Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE

Posted on 10/01/2001 7:16:44 PM PDT by Jean S

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Tymesup
Jayna Davis - "We have (22) sworn witness affidavits that tie seven to eight Arab men to various stages of the bombing plot . . "

Who is Jayna Davis? Who are the “witnesses”? What is the evidence? Don’t spread rumors, give us the “evidence” if you’ve got any.

61 posted on 10/02/2001 7:23:06 AM PDT by Fred25
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To: Sandy
And more funding. One of the first live interviews I saw on TV on 9/11 was with Sen. Carl Levin and another congressman (before everyone ran to ground). They had just had to leave an Armed Forces Committee meeting to discuss certain funding and Levin was practically livid. He said the attacks were primarily an intelligence failure (he is also on the Intelligence Committee) and that our people couldn't do their jobs better because they didn't have the money they need for modern operations. It wasn't a blame speech. He was just so frustrated and I think sick at heart because apparently he has been trying to make people understand the threats we face and vote for the funding, and then...........the attacks came. He said we need to wake up and realize that our number one issue isn't education, isn't Social Security, isn't the environment, it's national security. At that point he was gesturing hard and nearly yelling. In a way it was painful to watch but also exciting because the gravity of the events made it easier to just tell the truth instead of beating around the bush. Levin is a Dem. However, it was pretty clear he was angry about what had happened to the Armed Forces and Intelligence services under the previous administration.
62 posted on 10/02/2001 8:03:28 AM PDT by smorgle
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To: zip
Get back to DU. I am so tired of your tripe. I depise your actions but will pray for your currently damned soul.

Hidy questions the present administration and you act like it is the unpardonable sin.

Some of you act as if your brain has ceased to function since Bush took office. You're still too busy rehashing Clinton to even consider what might be going on now. Bush has been in office since January...when are you going to catch up? I voted for Bush too....and haven't seen much difference in him and Clinton since he took office. Bush just wants to move along and not hold Clinton accountable so why don't you take his advice and move along? Follow your leader.

And who are you to say who is damned? Who died and made you God?

63 posted on 10/02/2001 8:18:38 AM PDT by Aerial
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To: Aerial
Do your homework. Search on Hidy and read the idiotic posts from other threads then get back to me. I don't mind seeing facts posted but I draw the line at intentionally degrading the office of the Presidency, no matter which party is in power. period
64 posted on 10/02/2001 8:34:16 AM PDT by zip
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To: Hidy
Now maybe Bush-supporters don't want to know certain things, but to categorize facts as spin is to intentionally delude oneself.

They don't want to hear anything that may put their savior in a bad light. They expect everyone to be the blind...bellowing sheep that they are. The ticket is to rehash Clinton corruption when any kind of possible Bush administration corruption comes up (spin). They don't have enough forethought to see that corruption is corruption wherever it is found. It's US or THEM and there is no middle ground for getting at the truth with some of these people. They have lost ALL objectivity in their blind allegiance. Then they want to spew insults and accusations at THINKING people who question things.

I say it is their right and privelge not to question...not to be objective. It is their right to express their opinions no matter how biased and shallow they are. God bless freedom of thought and speech. Too bad it is this very thing some cannot stand when it opposes their biased views.

65 posted on 10/02/2001 8:37:44 AM PDT by Aerial
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To: Dallas
You can't expect them to clean out 8 years of dirt in less than 9 months...

We keep hearing what we can't expect...so what can we expect?

Soon it will be a year...but we will still be hearing this line from Bush apologists. I voted for the guy too...but I see little difference in anything since he took office.

In fact it's beginning to look to me like the Dems and Repubs are blending together fast and I would not be surprised if the line is not being erased between the two. Even Al Gore said Bush was "his Commander and Chief". They are all real buddy-buddy since the terrorist attack but I believe it was in the works long before then. This is just a convenient time to "unite" under one party to further the angenda of both.

We will see.

66 posted on 10/02/2001 8:49:19 AM PDT by Aerial
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To: zip
Zip...I take it issue by issue. I don't do background checks on posters.

I was commenting on this ONE post. I saw nothing in it that would damn her soul or that was unreasonable.

If I think the office of the President or anyone else requires questioning of it's procedures I will question them. The founding fathers strongly suggested that we do so. It is something any logical, free-thinking American citizen would do.

I am not here to defend Hidy's thoughts or actions...but her right to them. I have been called anti-American and anti-patriotic myself for expressing my views which many times go against the grain of the total-defence-no-matter-what of Bush and his administration. I find this anti-American and anti-patriotic...as well as naive.

I find it amazing that to question the Bush administation...or any administration (govenment period) is producing all manner of persecution against those who do so. Our founding fathers who we so lovingly quote in defence of our constitution and civil liberties thought it appropriate and necessary to do this. Government should not have a face...government should have a place.

67 posted on 10/02/2001 9:14:42 AM PDT by Aerial
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To: Aerial, t-shirt
bump
68 posted on 10/02/2001 12:21:35 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: Aerial
I suppose Ashcroft could use a couple of approaches...

Go in a start lopping off people's heads, or try to resuscitate the place. I suppose he chose the latter..

I'm as impatient as you are. Too much is at stake now.

69 posted on 10/02/2001 12:22:38 PM PDT by Dallas
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To: Fred25
Jayna Davis is a former television reporter for KFOR. A few snippets:

." In a June 7, 1995, report, KFOR correspondent Jayna Davis showed a digitally obscured picture of an employee at that business. "Law enforcement officers," she said, "agree with us [that he] strongly resembles the FBI sketches of John Doe two. We know who he is, but we can't show you his face at this time because he has not been arrested or charged. However, he wave witnesses who identified him in the company of Timothy McVeigh just days before the blast and just a few miles away from the Murrah building."

May 16,2001 By Jon Dougherty © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

The Justice Department lawyer who informed Timothy McVeigh's defense team the FBI had denied it access to over 3,100 pages of evidence, had earlier been tasked with justifying the FBI's refusal to take possession of evidence provided by an investigative reporter -- including 22 witness statements implicating several Arab men as having acted in collusion with McVeigh and Terry Nichols in the Oklahoma City bombing.

Jayna Davis, a former reporter for NBC affiliate KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City, told WND that FBI officials refused to take custody of evidence she said came from hundreds of pages of "public court records, police reports and statements from intelligence and law enforcement sources" on the eve of OKC bombing co-conspirator Terry Nichols' trial in September 1997.

"They rejected the materials outright and declined to sign a written statement acknowledging that I attempted to turn the information over," she said, adding that Pam Nance, a notary public, witnessed the incident.

Nance confirmed witnessing the incident and said the FBI referred Davis to officials in Denver, Colo., where the OKC trials were being held.

On Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor" program Monday night, Davis said she "has direct knowledge that there was a prior warning that there would be an Iran-sponsored Islamic attack. The first target was Washington, D.C., Congress and the White House … and I know for a fact that the [OKC primary conspirator Timothy] McVeigh and the Nichols defense team did not receive this information."

70 posted on 10/02/2001 3:01:25 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: Aerial
I find it amazing that to question the Bush administation...or any administration (govenment period) is producing all manner of persecution against those who do so....Everyone has the right to question any administration but that DOES NOT give them the right to go off on vicious attacks on a personal level just to stir up the FR posters. For your information, the header say FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum". For those of Hidy's mindset (and maybe yours) there is DU and other dimbulb forums. Why do you all come over here to spew your venom?
71 posted on 10/02/2001 3:50:15 PM PDT by zip
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To: Bill Rice
Everyone is missing what stinks the most here: "...Moussaoui himself was placed in detention on minor immigration charges..."

This slime WASN'T EVEN A US CITIZEN!

Why the hell should the FBI even HAVE to ask permission from anyone to invesigate his hard drive? The guy's an IMMIGRANT!

The great lawyers of this land through their misuse of the judicial system have deemed that all persons residing in the US are guaranteed the same rights under our constitution, be they citizens or not. Sickening.

72 posted on 10/02/2001 3:51:29 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: zip
I am a conservative. I don't come over here...I stay here. I have never been to DU.

Being conservative is what pushes me to question. I am looking hard for evidence that we have a conservative administration.

I voted for Bush with my fingers crossed. Clinton was corrupt but Bush said he wants to "move along". If you totally supports everything your president says and does...I suppose you will have to move along too.

74 posted on 10/02/2001 4:22:37 PM PDT by Aerial
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To: Aerial
I don't support every move our leaders make but neither do I find it humorous for disruptors to state that Bush, Ashcroft, et al meet in smoke filled rooms and plot how to kill babies, women, nonmilitary individuals and blame it on some mythical group so we can go to war. That is BS and noone can convince me otherwise. That is where I am coming from.
75 posted on 10/02/2001 8:30:19 PM PDT by zip
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To: zip
Okay...I understand where you are coming from.
76 posted on 10/02/2001 8:51:06 PM PDT by Aerial
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To: Bill Rice
Yeah, I caught that too. Why are we so concerned about rights (i.e. constitutional) for non-citizens and/or illegal aliens?
77 posted on 10/02/2001 9:39:01 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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