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To: Zon
F.O.G. (a good acronym for your quotee) speaks as if "government" was some static entity in which Bush is no different from Clinton etc. Such dogmatism is ridiculous on its face. I can't blame Ashcroft for asking for jet skis to make up the distance lost when Clinton swam the wrong direction.
4 posted on 10/01/2001 2:33:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
F.O.G. (a good acronym for your quotee) 

Actually it's a bad acronym unless you want me to interpret as I see fit because I don't know what the it stands for.  I could create a dozen examples that use those three letters in that sequence.

speaks as if "government" was some static entity in which Bush is no different from Clinton etc.

I spoke nothing of Clinton or Bush. I did quote "from occupied ga" which he neither spoke of Bush or Clinton when  he wrote it originally. Both "from occupied ga" and myself used it in direct reference to congress and government bureaucrats. BTW, Bush s not a liberal. That you make such comparison is beginning proof that you created a straw-man.

 Such dogmatism is ridiculous on its face. 

Continuing to construct your straw-man

I can't blame Ashcroft for asking for jet skis to make up the distance lost when Clinton swam the wrong direction.

You want more statist government empowerment at taxpayer expense?

I should have included the short paragraph that "from occupied ga" proceeded the above quote with. It is this: "I'm waiting for the brown shirted government sycophant cheerleaders to come and flame me for having the effrontery to post criticism of the government "at a time when we all need to pull together" or some equally fatuous phrase." -- from occupied ga

5 posted on 10/01/2001 3:09:09 AM PDT by Zon
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What Ashcroft is asking for will affect the rights of citizens without affecting the freedom of foreign nationals to do as they like. Why do we need more laws which attack our Bill of Rights? The BoR doesn't apply to foreign nationals. Everything Ashcroft wants to do can already be done if the targets are illegal infiltrators.

Congress can declare war now, and anyone found spying, or plotting terrorism will not have to have an airtight legal case built against them. They can be tried by a military tribunal and hanged without DoJ lawyers having to break a sweat.

Let these alphabet agencies, which have issued regulations giving illegals the same rights as citizens, simply rescind those regulations. That solves the legal problems Ashcroft claims to face right now.

If Ashcroft will simply admit that his LE agencies have been too busy with internal politicking and with waging war on citizens over unconstitutional gun laws and tax matters, he's halfway to fixing what's wrong with the DoJ.

35 posted on 10/01/2001 4:57:40 AM PDT by Twodees
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