China's Support for U.S. on Terror Is a Dramatic About-Face

The New York Times ^ | September 30, 2001 | ERIK ECKHOLM

[aculeus]

We have more support in Moscow and Beijing than among the Professoriat at our leading universities.

[freedomson]

They're just hoping we screw up and get our butts kicked.

[dalebert]

Don't bet on it. China is in it up to their ears. Just read article concerning new colition against war on terrorism.

[super175]

Not a dramatic "about face" but rather a dramatic "two face".

[piasa]

At the momentwe have more gestures of support worldwide because everyone knows we didn't get a terminal wound. The same sort of reaction you would expect if you tried to beat a pit bull with a stick and suddenly discovered that the chain around its neck was no longer fastened to the stake.

[xm177e2]

In "1984," didn't governments engage in quick about-faces and nobody said anything? In fact, they told everyone there was no change at all. That must be what it's like in China.

[super175]

Art of War

China wants the US to abandon Taiwan

[super175]

What happened in 1984?

[super175]

China and the Taliban

[super175]

bump #5

[muawiyah]

One of the reasons the Chinese are cheering on our involvement in this "get rid of terrorists" business this time is that these terrorists hold the world's largest reserve of opium.

The Chinese are just now getting over their national destruction initiated in the 1700s with cheap and legal opium. As they start making a little money, they don't want opium use to return.

Chinese people, in general, do not waste anything - certainly not the opportunity to have the richest country in the world destroy the opium reserves that threaten them.

I would suggest that if this event in Afghanistan wipes out the opium supply, we use the same technique on the terrorists in Columbia, and get rid of the cocain supply.

[aculeus]

They're just hoping we screw up and get our butts kicked.

Wrong, for several reasons.

They are not stupid.

They have television and saw the planes crashing.

They have the Olympics coming up. (Taiwan will not be invaded until after the Olympics, if ever.)

They know the moslems hate communism.

I've been saying since day one (9/11) that the world, China included, is now unitied against terrorism.

(If we lose who's going to buy their consumer goods which count for many more dollars than any weapons sold to third world countries?)

[piasa]

LOL, yes, I think so- very Orwellian. With the 'five minute hates' and so forth to go with the enemy du jour.

[super175]

China builds a phone system in Kabul (for the Taliban)

Some reports even have China paying the Taliban $10m USD, and provding military training...

[He Rides A White Horse]

Though it has been spared any bloody conflict comparable to that in Chechnya, China fears the emergence of unrest and terrorism at home, most immediately in the largely Muslim frontier province of Xinjiang, where a stewing separatist movement has occasionally set off bombs or attacked the police.

But the Chinese leaders also see an opportunity in the current crisis to meet a broader goal: to forge an improvement in overall relations with the United States and other Western countries, according to policy experts and diplomats on both sides of the Pacific.

Completely self serving. China is banking on a more tolerant attitude in which they can deal with, ahem, 'terrorists' at home.

Watch how fast the time honored crime of 'hooliganism' becomes 'terrorism'.

[xm177e2]

"1984" isn't a date, it's the name of a book by George Orwell. It's not very long, and it's a very good read. I highly recommend reading it.

[super175]

They are not stupid.

True

They have the Olympics coming up. (Taiwan will not be invaded until after the Olympics, if ever.)

They hate America and America's support for Taiwan. They are trying to diminish America and force us out of Asia.

They know the moslems hate communism.

There are millions of Muslims in China. Maybe 30 million or so. Suffice it to say not all hate communism.

I've been saying since day one (9/11) that the world, China included, is now unitied against terrorism.

I don't think so. China thinks Tibetians, and Taiwanese are terrorists.

PRC Unrestricted Warfare and Terrorism

[ex-snook]

Looks like everyone is dialing 911 for the USA terror-cops. Would they mind helping us pay the bill?

[Lady GOP]

They have been awfully quiet lately and hopefully it wont be because the money trail leads to them. Seems like something is going down with them. Noone is looking at China at all and they are suddenly very close mouthed. Cant help but think of the Klinton years when we had an administration stupid enough to give all our secrets away to the Chinese.