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To: Miss Marple, Singapore Yank
Janey dear, this is from my heart & my perspective.....

God is a sovereign God......God is sovereign.....Satan is not more powerful than God.

Yes, 6000 souls perished 3 weeks ago.......some were Christians....some weren't.
They all perished. ---the same way. ....at the same time.

Being a Christian won't protect us from dying or dying too soon, or dying in a horrible way.

Many were ready to meet their maker.....many weren't.
But God is still sovereign.
There is no other answer.

Our nation has been turning away from God for a long, long time.
Collectively, we spit in His face, and say He is dead.

We ignore Him, trash Him, blaspheme Him, remove Him from schools & the influence of our children......and then when a tragedy of this sort occurs, folk will say..."How could God do this"....or "How could a loving God do this".......

Janey, I believe we have had God's protection upon us........even though corporately, our nation has backed as far away from Him as it can.

God is slow to anger......it says so in the scriptures.

But if we believe there is a God.....and I do.....and He's sovereign....then we must also believe God was not impotent September 11.

Indeed yes, those who took the airplanes, and tricked folks into letting down their guard.......their hearts were evil, and their purpose was evil......and I believe Satan was their master.

But was Satan more powerful than God?.......Could God have stopped it?.....

......or to put it another way......If these terrorists had completely held sway that day.....if we hadn't had a Christian President in place to authorize authority in closing down our airports, the outcome could have been much, much worse.

Did God prevent worse from happening?......Did God stay the hand of Satan, before he could finish us off?

Was this a call to repentance to our nation at large.
Will it be heeded?

Janey, God spared Niniveh in the days of old.......(book of Johah)....

Jonah didn't want Niniveh spared because it was so wicked!!

God dealt with Jonah.........He also spared Niniveh because they repented of their wickedness, and truly mourned thier sins.

But later, they forgot.......they turned away....and well......

Our God is a loving God.......He's a righteous God.......

Janey, my Mom...(who lives in a retirement village)....has a friend, an elderly lady, who refuses to sing ...Amazing Grace...because it has the verse...that saved a wretch like me.....

She says she's not a wretch!

Janey, I'm a wretch!

We all are wretched folks.....no matter how good we clean up on the outside.

And only by God's grace, are our wretched souls redeemed.

60 posted on 09/30/2001 2:47:19 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere
I understand and agree with your discussion of salvation. Here is the problem, Geuenevere. We are NOT collectively responsible for all sin. We are INDIVIDUALLY responsible for our own sins and for spreading the Gospel. This is why there is such emphasis on a PERSONAL relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

In effect, what you seem to be saying is that because Hollywood is mocking God, and I, Miss Marple, live in this country, and I am unable to stop them, I am to be punished for their sins.

I do not believe that God works this way.

Furthermore, if you carry this to its logial conclusion, then it seems to say that the terrorists were being used by God. To me that is blasphemy.

I am not going to return to this thread because I have nothing more to say. I like you folks a lot, but I think you are in error.

67 posted on 09/30/2001 6:50:05 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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