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Strategy: Crack Force Set to Prise Bin Laden from his Lair
News Telegraph - UK ^ | 9/30/01

Posted on 09/29/2001 8:18:29 PM PDT by GVnana

Crack force set to prise bin Laden from his lair

By Macer Hall (Filed: 30/09/2001)

SPECIAL forces units are preparing to launch underground attacks on the network of tunnels and caves that conceal Osama bin Laden and his guerrilla fighters.

The SAS and American elite troops will attempt to penetrate the fortified subterranean hideouts to kill or capture terrorists under plans being drawn up by military strategists for a "warning shot" in the war against terror.

Commanders know, however, that such close-quarter combat under the mountains of southern Afghanistan could lead to heavy casualties.

Historically, Afghan fighters have used their detailed knowledge of the caves and hidden trails through the mountains to defeat invaders. Their ability to strike with surprise, then vanish, was the key to their success against the Soviet Army in the 1980s.

Bin Laden's forces have burrowed a complex web of tunnels and caves beneath the mountains. Each base is defended by gun emplacements and anti-aircraft missiles launchers. The networks have dozens of escape tunnels and are linked to observation posts on mountain sides.

An assault on one or more of the caves would need a substantial force of aircraft, artillery and airborne troops to support it. Air strikes with deep penetration weapons would begin the attack, to knock out defences and to blast holes into the caves.

The United States could launch Tomahawk Block III missiles, which are guided by the Global Positioning Satellite system and have 1,000lb warheads, from submarines or warships in the Gulf. For greater accuracy, GPS-guided GBU28 "bunker busting" bombs could be dropped by F15E Eagles, F16 Fighting Falcons or other attack aircraft.

Then a special forces team would be deployed by helicopter - CH-53 Sea Stallions are an option - to attack guerrillas flushed out by the bombing and infiltrate the tunnels. In addition to the SAS and US Delta Force, other elite units with mountain fighting capability may be involved in an attack, including the Americans' 75th Ranger Regiment and the Royal Marines 3 Commando Brigade.

Charles Heyman, the editor of Jane's World Armies, said: "It would be a very difficult operation, there is no doubt about that. Commanders will want a lot of troops and aircraft as well as artillery in support because many defences may still be in place after air strikes.

"The classic terrorist tactic is to desert these places and move away and not get themselves caught by properly organised military forces of any sort. But if there are people trying to defend them, you could have a really bloody battle on your hands."

Contingency plans for airlifting casualties out of the battle zone will also be necessary. American strategists are drawing on the experiences of the "tunnel rats" of the Vietnam War, the US soldiers who, armed with grenades, pistols and torches, fought in the hundreds of miles of tunnels dug by Communist guerillas.

While military technology has moved on, with thermal imaging equipment used to track enemies, the battle would come down to the same techniques of hand-to-hand fighting in claustrophobic conditions.

The terrorists' tunnels are believed to be able to conceal thousands of fighters for months. They include dormitories and other living quarters, communication centres and armouries stacked with Kalashnikov rifles, mortars, ammunition and explosives.

Some of the caves have lighting and electricity supplied by generators and makeshift systems of hot water pipes for heating. Al-Qaeda fighters live a sparse existence with just the Koran for comfort.

Bin Laden was known to be based in a cave in a mountain range above Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan, the subterranean centre of his global terror network, until disappearing before the US hijack attacks.

His underground lair was reported to have a library of Islamic texts, an arms store and a communication room including computers, faxes and a satellite telephone.


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What bloody and dangerous work this will be.
1 posted on 09/29/2001 8:18:29 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVgirl
Would fuel-air explosives work well in a cave system?
2 posted on 09/29/2001 8:31:49 PM PDT by hc87
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What bloody and dangerous work this will be.

Yes it will...but I think we wll have a few surprises for them that will allow us to minimize our casualties.

3 posted on 09/29/2001 8:38:34 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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What bloody and dangerous work this will be.

Bloody on the Al Quaeda side, dangerous to be sure for all.

Thing is, the Afghans as well as the journalists have not the faintest idea what our elite troups can accomplish and how very well they are trained for ANY situation.

Many people ascribe others courage and bravery with there own limitations. Fact is that we have the best trained, best equipped elite soldiers in the world. Close combat in 'claustrophobic' conditions with those responcible for so many American deaths seems just what the doctor ordered.

Have no fear for our elite troops, for they have none.

4 posted on 09/29/2001 8:40:26 PM PDT by Mensius
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Ooohh. Sounds like you have a mind for this work!
5 posted on 09/29/2001 8:41:00 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVgirl

Sunset over Afghanistan


6 posted on 09/29/2001 8:41:45 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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Every cave entrance discovered should be blown shut. Sooner or later...
7 posted on 09/29/2001 8:42:06 PM PDT by MistrX
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It sounds a bit like the maze of tunnels the Japanese built on Mount Surabachi on Iwo Jima. I believe the U.S. forces made heavy use of flamethrowers. Not to "smoke 'em out" so much as to "burn 'em out".
8 posted on 09/29/2001 8:42:40 PM PDT by jpthomas
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I can't help it. I do fear for them. They are always in my thoughts.
9 posted on 09/29/2001 8:43:30 PM PDT by GVnana
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When I read the subject line, I thought we had sent a group of plumbers after Bin Laden...
10 posted on 09/29/2001 8:44:18 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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We'll see.
11 posted on 09/29/2001 8:45:32 PM PDT by mathurine
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What bloody and dangerous work this will be.

Why not just Nuke him? The destruction would seem to be complete, if we got within a few miles of him.

12 posted on 09/29/2001 8:48:07 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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Not to "smoke 'em out" so much as to "burn 'em out".

Maybe with some American jet fuel.

13 posted on 09/29/2001 8:48:29 PM PDT by GVnana
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Those tunnels are gonna be crumblin'...
14 posted on 09/29/2001 8:50:39 PM PDT by sargon
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These Bin Laden clowns have no idea just how totally fu(ked they are about to be...
15 posted on 09/29/2001 8:52:17 PM PDT by sargon
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"Would fuel-air explosives work well in a cave system? "

As I understand it, any underground facilities need to have an opening large enough for the air to suddenly rush out for fuel-air explosives to be effective (but I'm no expert). We've been aware of these caves for more than then years. (Hell, I've been aware of them for about 10 years) I'm only guessing, but there are probably counter measures prepared for sealing them in, probably involving seismic devises to map them and locate openings. If we can control the terrain for an extended period of time, we don't have to go in like the Vietnam tunnel rats.

16 posted on 09/29/2001 8:54:53 PM PDT by elfman2
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Would fuel-air explosives work well in a cave system?

I don't know, but I'm sure our forces will conduct some "experiments" to see...

17 posted on 09/29/2001 8:55:34 PM PDT by sargon
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To: elfman2
then =ten
18 posted on 09/29/2001 8:56:37 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: GVgirl

The GBU-28 Bunker Buster especially built for Saddam Hussein. Two were used in the Gulf War. I understand that a new version has been on 'rush' order. This is the 4,000 pound version.

19 posted on 09/29/2001 8:59:10 PM PDT by blam
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So you think the idea is to bomb the caves and kill whatever emrges?
20 posted on 09/29/2001 9:04:46 PM PDT by GVnana
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