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Andrew Sullivan: The damage Clinton did
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 09/30/2001 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 09/29/2001 4:58:52 PM PDT by Pokey78

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1 posted on 09/29/2001 4:58:52 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: mombonn, Howlin, Miss Marple, summer
Ping.
2 posted on 09/29/2001 4:59:44 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Andy's taking a breather from his real interest--gay activism--to suck up to the Clinton critics. Having charmed a few more, he'll be back to sign them up as allies in the gay-lesbian wars.
3 posted on 09/29/2001 5:03:24 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Pokey78
BUMP
4 posted on 09/29/2001 5:07:07 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: Kevin Curry
Personally, I don't care if Andrew Sullivan makes love to racehorses, he's still a heck of a good writer.
5 posted on 09/29/2001 5:08:26 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
"The narcissistic, feckless, escapist culture of an America absent without leave in the world was fomented from the top."

Two comments:

I wish I could write like this.

I hope I live long enough to see clinton indicted for TREASON.

6 posted on 09/29/2001 5:09:13 PM PDT by Tripleplay
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To: Kevin Curry
Hey, let's try to give the guy credit when he's right. He's certainly right this time. This type of attacks on the liberals will do nothing to help them understand or consider more conservative viewpoints. In fact, I think it makes them more defensive and more liberal. Again, let's try to give the guy credit when he's right.

We should be telling him how great this story is. Maybe he'll try to write another one just as good?

I believe that conservatives need to be more open sometimes. I am open to any liberal wanting to express some more conservative views.

7 posted on 09/29/2001 5:13:20 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Tripleplay
Perhaps too clinton knows how the terrorists got the codes for Air Force One........
8 posted on 09/29/2001 5:13:30 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Pokey78
If we stand back ... take a deep breathe ....and absorb how the FBI, CIA, and other policing authorities moved with stealth tactics, and with a script that is/was in hard copy and immediatley avaiable, to track all this suspects down, it suggests these same authorities, who are being hammered by the media for "Not Doing Their Jobs" ... makes one strongly suspect that these "Cells" have been known about for years.

Which also makes one ask "Who up the ladder" in the Clinton administration ..... shuttled these same agencies off to Buffalo, silence them, and stop them from formally investigating the plot ... and activities ... as now we know they had intended to activate.

Silence is golden ....but at the cost of 6,000 people is not a golden way to leave natural life.

9 posted on 09/29/2001 5:13:32 PM PDT by GoldnGate
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I commend Sullivan for his observations, but I'll take this one step further.

If the United States does not hold Bill Clinton, along with any other public officials, responsible for their actions and negligence in exposing the U.S. public to this kind of attack, then ANY military response by the Bush administration will be both inconsequential and inadequate.

If we as a nation do not have the moral courage to try our own public officials for treason, have the guilty ones executed, then dig them up a week later and "execute" them again just to set an ezample, then we may as well turn on CNN, break out the popcorn, and wait for the next catastrophic assault.

10 posted on 09/29/2001 5:18:03 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Pokey78,travis mcgee
Wow! What a thorough summary.
11 posted on 09/29/2001 5:22:13 PM PDT by maica
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To: Kevin Curry
I have become convinced that you were either dropped as a baby or you are a recovering LSD addict. There are just no other explanations.
12 posted on 09/29/2001 5:27:05 PM PDT by francisandbeans
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To: Pokey78
James Zogby should be watched.
13 posted on 09/29/2001 5:28:54 PM PDT by Rustynailww
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To: Pokey78
Good job, Andrew.

And excellent writing.

14 posted on 09/29/2001 5:30:10 PM PDT by Storm Orphan
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To: Kevin Curry
...Yeaa, so fookin what! Trrrry to stay focused on the issue.

...Sounds alot like what I've been hearing, and reading lately. good on ya, poke.

15 posted on 09/29/2001 5:41:36 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: GoldnGate, TerrOrWar, Travis McGee, harpseal
Bingo! The cells were known about, the failure to crack down on them was deliberate, and the policy came from the highest levels. Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE .
16 posted on 09/29/2001 5:41:37 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Kevin Curry
nah--the guy's really changed his tone since he's gone on mega-testosterone.
17 posted on 09/29/2001 5:44:16 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Alberta's Child
"If the United States does not hold Bill Clinton, along with any other public officials, responsible for their actions and negligence in exposing the U.S. public to this kind of attack..."

Unfortunately, negligence is not a capital crime.

The SOB was duly elected. Twice. Meaning that the electorate was even more negligent...

18 posted on 09/29/2001 5:47:57 PM PDT by okie01
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To: maica
except, what I've been wondering about, the loosening of immigration policy. Would these guys have been alloweed to be here without jobs or visible means of support ten years ago? It will be interesting to see their biographies as they are put together.
19 posted on 09/29/2001 5:49:22 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Pokey78, kayak, OnediaM
Great read. Andrew Sullivan can certainly turn a phrase!
20 posted on 09/29/2001 5:52:27 PM PDT by jtill
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