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Andrew Sullivan: The damage Clinton did
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^
| 09/30/2001
| Andrew Sullivan
Posted on 09/29/2001 4:58:52 PM PDT by Pokey78
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posted on
09/29/2001 4:58:52 PM PDT
by
Pokey78
To: mombonn, Howlin, Miss Marple, summer
Ping.
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posted on
09/29/2001 4:59:44 PM PDT
by
Pokey78
To: Pokey78
Andy's taking a breather from his real interest--gay activism--to suck up to the Clinton critics. Having charmed a few more, he'll be back to sign them up as allies in the gay-lesbian wars.
To: Pokey78
BUMP
To: Kevin Curry
Personally, I don't care if Andrew Sullivan makes love to racehorses, he's still a heck of a good writer.
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:08:26 PM PDT
by
Pokey78
To: Pokey78
"The narcissistic, feckless, escapist culture of an America absent without leave in the world was fomented from the top."
Two comments:
I wish I could write like this.
I hope I live long enough to see clinton indicted for TREASON.
To: Kevin Curry
Hey, let's try to give the guy credit when he's right. He's certainly right this time. This type of attacks on the liberals will do nothing to help them understand or consider more conservative viewpoints. In fact, I think it makes them more defensive and more liberal. Again, let's try to give the guy credit when he's right.
We should be telling him how great this story is. Maybe he'll try to write another one just as good?
I believe that conservatives need to be more open sometimes. I am open to any liberal wanting to express some more conservative views.
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:13:20 PM PDT
by
boycott
To: Tripleplay
Perhaps too clinton knows how the terrorists got the codes for Air Force One........
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:13:30 PM PDT
by
OldFriend
To: Pokey78
If we stand back ... take a deep breathe ....and absorb how the FBI, CIA, and other policing authorities moved with stealth tactics, and with a script that is/was in hard copy and immediatley avaiable, to track all this suspects down, it suggests these same authorities, who are being hammered by the media for "Not Doing Their Jobs" ... makes one strongly suspect that these "Cells" have been known about for years.
Which also makes one ask "Who up the ladder" in the Clinton administration ..... shuttled these same agencies off to Buffalo, silence them, and stop them from formally investigating the plot ... and activities ... as now we know they had intended to activate.
Silence is golden ....but at the cost of 6,000 people is not a golden way to leave natural life.
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:13:32 PM PDT
by
GoldnGate
To: Pokey78
I commend Sullivan for his observations, but I'll take this one step further.
If the United States does not hold Bill Clinton, along with any other public officials, responsible for their actions and negligence in exposing the U.S. public to this kind of attack, then ANY military response by the Bush administration will be both inconsequential and inadequate.
If we as a nation do not have the moral courage to try our own public officials for treason, have the guilty ones executed, then dig them up a week later and "execute" them again just to set an ezample, then we may as well turn on CNN, break out the popcorn, and wait for the next catastrophic assault.
To: Pokey78,travis mcgee
Wow! What a thorough summary.
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:22:13 PM PDT
by
maica
To: Kevin Curry
I have become convinced that you were either dropped as a baby or you are a recovering LSD addict. There are just no other explanations.
To: Pokey78
James Zogby should be watched.
To: Pokey78
Good job, Andrew.
And excellent writing.
To: Kevin Curry
...Yeaa, so fookin what! Trrrry to stay focused on the issue.
...Sounds alot like what I've been hearing, and reading lately. good on ya, poke.
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:41:36 PM PDT
by
gargoyle
To: GoldnGate, TerrOrWar, Travis McGee, harpseal
To: Kevin Curry
nah--the guy's really changed his tone since he's gone on mega-testosterone.
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:44:16 PM PDT
by
gusopol3
To: Alberta's Child
"If the United States does not hold Bill Clinton, along with any other public officials, responsible for their actions and negligence in exposing the U.S. public to this kind of attack..." Unfortunately, negligence is not a capital crime.
The SOB was duly elected. Twice. Meaning that the electorate was even more negligent...
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:47:57 PM PDT
by
okie01
To: maica
except, what I've been wondering about, the loosening of immigration policy. Would these guys have been alloweed to be here without jobs or visible means of support ten years ago? It will be interesting to see their biographies as they are put together.
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:49:22 PM PDT
by
gusopol3
To: Pokey78, kayak, OnediaM
Great read. Andrew Sullivan can certainly turn a phrase!
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posted on
09/29/2001 5:52:27 PM PDT
by
jtill
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