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Clinton policy...using Bin Laden as a bulwark against Iran, Russia and China...what did we get..7,000 murdered Americans...

George Tenet, who heads the CIA, should resign or be fired.

Tenet was too busy consulting with CBS on a television program about the CIA...

1 posted on 09/29/2001 1:10:15 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: Howlin, Miss Marple, dog, Other Informed FReepers
>>>LArry Klayman of Judicial Watch<<<

Will he be covering the issue on how CAIR and AMC raise funds by mass mailings?

2 posted on 09/29/2001 1:19:27 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: majordivit
Good post
3 posted on 09/29/2001 1:25:48 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Alamo-Girl
FYI
5 posted on 09/29/2001 1:28:30 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: majordivit
This is a keeper.

I sometimes wonder how guys like Reed Irvine stay sane. He learns things, confirms them, publishese them, and the world ignores it.

There is no better time than in the next two weeks for the Bush Administration to clean out the cobwebs and make it clear that there was more to OKC than a lone right-wing famatic, and more to TWA 800 than a "massive internal explosion" (yeah, right).

If Tenet had honor, he'd fall on his sword. Unfortunately, W will have to ask for his badge.

6 posted on 09/29/2001 1:36:00 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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Thanks for the excellent post, majordivit!
12 posted on 09/29/2001 2:14:37 PM PDT by PatiPie
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To: backhoe, LoneGreenEyeshade, Aggressive Calivinists, KLT, Proud2bRC
For your perusal.
13 posted on 09/29/2001 2:16:53 PM PDT by PatiPie
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I am bookmarking this thread! I'm speechless, and that's not easy to do! Thank you major!
16 posted on 09/29/2001 2:21:32 PM PDT by KLT
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To: majordivit
B-1 Bob has gone slightly crazy and Klayman should be locked up with James Carville and Paul Begala.
17 posted on 09/29/2001 2:24:06 PM PDT by Deb
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Clinton policy...using Bin Laden as a bulwark against Iran, Russia and China...what did we get..7,000 murdered Americans...

And communism had already imploded.

20 posted on 09/29/2001 2:37:05 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: majordivit, TerrOrWar, OKCSubmariner, t-shirt, freedomnews, Fred Mertz, Pummz, a history buff
Labeviere argues that the Clinton administration viewed the bin Laden network and the radical Taliban regime in Afghan-istan as a bulwark against Russian, Iranian and even Chinese influence in Asia. He quotes a former CIA analyst as saying, "The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia." It was believed that Sunni Islam could be used to undermine Russia in Chechnya and China in southern Xingjiang.

Doesn't sound like a very plausible explanation to me. Sounds more like an excuse by somebody who wants to avoid a scandal and to preserve his job and pension.

If bin Laden continued to be so tied in with the CIA -- as I have long suspected -- we have our explanation of why we would have bombed the aspirin factory in Khartoum at a time when the Sudanese were holding two bin Laden lieutenants on suspicion of being involved in the embassy bombings. Would also explain how somebody might have gotten the bin Laden folks to bomb those embassies at a time convenient to Bill Clinton, at the height of the Monica scandal in August '98.

This book by this Swiss guy sounds very plausible. I just ordered it on line.

22 posted on 09/29/2001 2:46:27 PM PDT by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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To: majordivit
Bump
32 posted on 09/29/2001 3:22:35 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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Who will have the guts to do the patriotic thing and lay this at the feet of Hillary and her Marxist-stooge? Nothing happened in that evil administration that she didn't approve.

These Clinton scum and their Clintonistas need to be revealed. It sure as hell won't be the socialist, America-hating New York Times that does it!

37 posted on 09/29/2001 3:55:22 PM PDT by GottliebBerger
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"...Both had back-grounds that would have sounded an alarm had the CIA checked them."

I thought the CIA was forbidden to carry on activities on the USA Mainland.

This was a job for the FBI...uh, Mr. Freeh, IIRC,

38 posted on 09/29/2001 4:03:37 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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George Tenet, who heads the CIA, should resign or be fired.

George Tenet was a Bubby "kiss A$$" and should have gone when Bush came in.. Bush kept too many of the Clinton left overs and is paying the price for it, rightfully so.

Sometimes it makes you wonder if any of these guys EVER LEARN ANYTHING, or if they ARE in FACT all on the same side.

DL

45 posted on 09/29/2001 5:12:14 PM PDT by Pee_Oui
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To: majordivit
thanks
68 posted on 09/29/2001 11:06:04 PM PDT by freedomnews
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Just when you thought you couldn't possibly get any angrier.............. But thanks for really good stuff.
85 posted on 10/01/2001 4:00:25 PM PDT by smorgle
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There's a good article here at the Village Voice that seems to have escaped the excellent posters here at FR. I don't have the time to post it tonight so someone please have at it if you think it warrants posting.

I already did an FR search on the title and the author and came up empty, but someone may want to double-check, just in case. I find it hard to believe this one was missed. Here's an excerpt:

Evidence of the plot surfaced when Ramzi Yousef—one of three men convicted subsequently for the 1993 WTC bombing and sentenced to 240 years in prison—hastily fled a burning Manila apartment (and the country) just 200 yards from the Vatican Embassy. Cops found Manila street maps and clothing remarkably similar to that of Pope John Paul's entourage—the pontiff was due for a visit a week from the discovery—suggesting a planned attempt on his life. They also discovered bomb materials and a laptop whose disks revealed plans for Project Bojinka—which means "loud explosion" in Arabic.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a computer expert who regularly assists the National Bureau of Investigation (the Philippine FBI counterpart) and the Philippine National Police in their investigations of computer-related crimes said he downloaded the files, revealing the terrorists' diabolical project. One plan called for the hijacking of U.S.-bound commercial airliners from various Asian capitals and then, according to him, crashing them into "key structures in the United States: The World Trade Center, the White House, the Pentagon, the Transamerican Tower, and the Sears Tower were among the prominent structures that had been identified in the plans that we had decoded." The expert pointed out that in fact a dry run had been conducted in 1994, on a Tokyo-bound Philippine Airlines flight, when a small bomb under a passenger seat went off, killing a Japanese tourist.

Great thread, majordivit.
87 posted on 10/01/2001 6:58:50 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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Please see my reply here. It seems that a request from the FBI's Minneapolis field office to the FISA court was turned down. Unless I've missed something, this is the first one to be turned down since Wen Ho Lee.
88 posted on 10/01/2001 11:00:04 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: majordivit;Free the USA;Alamo-Girl;rdavis84; Deb;OKCSubmariner, t-shirt, freedomnews, Fred Mertz
Foreigners, including many from the Middle East, flock to flight schools in the U.S. Visas are given almost automatically to those who apply to these schools. It is especially easy for those with Saudi Arabian passports. At Huffman Aviation International in Venice, Florida, about 70 percent of the students are foreigners. That is one of the schools where Mohammed Atta, 33, who steered American Airlines flight 11 into the north WTC tower, and Marwan Yousef Alshehhi, who flew United Airlines flight 175 into the south tower were trained. Both had back-grounds that would have sounded an alarm had the CIA checked them.

The entire thrust of this article, even the title "intelligence failure," presupposes that the problem is ineptness or goof-ups. Any government agency would prefer to be thought of as inept, rather than criminal, but the facts strongly suggest that this was not a matter of incompetence.

First of all, it was not the case that all of these hijackers simply got visas, were trained at civilian US flight schools and managed to slip through without a CIA background check. We know that at least 5 of the hijackers DID have a CIA background check. Why? Because these 5 were trained as pilots on a US military base. [Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases ] No one can even enter a US military base and wander around unsupervised, and certainly no one can possibly get training as a pilot on a military base without a complete background check.

It is also noteworthy to check into the circumstances surrounding those who were convicted of bombing the WTC in 1993. THE CIA AND THE SHEIK [Omar Abdel Rahman]:
"'Why aren't we going after the sheikh [Abdel Rahman]?' demanded the undercover man.
'It's hands-off,' answered the agent.
'Why?' asked the operative.
'It was no accident that the sheikh got a visa and that he's still in the country,' replied the agent, visibly upset. 'He's here under the banner of national security, the State Department, the NSA [National Security Agency], and the CIA.
The agent pointed out that the sheikh had been granted a tourist visa, and later a green card, despite the fact that he was on a State Department terrorist watch-list that should have barred him from the country. He's an untouchable, concluded the agent."

Now the question is: who authorized the Sept. 11 WTC & Pentagon hijackers to train on US military bases and who intervened to stop the ones with criminal records from being denied access to a US military base and deported? These are the questions that we should be asking, not why there was an "intelligence failure."

91 posted on 10/01/2001 11:55:03 PM PDT by Black Jade
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Clinton's Bin Laden GATE - Mother of all Scandals
109 posted on 11/05/2001 9:47:32 AM PST by Republican_Strategist
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