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WHO IS DANIEL PIPES? Why the Islamic organizations don't like him.
CAIR ^ | year 2000 | Council on American-Islamic Relations

Posted on 09/29/2001 3:14:13 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: dennisw
"...The irony in [an article written by Pipes] is of course that Dr. Pipes and other radically and blindly pro-Zionist American Jews are much farther along the chauvinist and ultimately anti-American spectrum than are even radical American Muslims."

Funny, I can live with and probably even agree with Pipes' commentary, yet it sure seems to me that the WTC was destroyed by radical American Muslims, hence they can't live with us.

21 posted on 09/29/2001 6:14:10 AM PDT by Cvengr
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To: dennisw
I have reached the point of tolerance where I have no sympathy for these hyphenated Americans. If they are interested in gaining the concerns of Americans for their fight against discrimination they should go out in the streets and demand that their Mosques and Charitable Organizations immediately open their books and doors for investigation. Until then they should continued to be treated like subversives by the entire nation.
22 posted on 09/29/2001 6:17:46 AM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: dennisw
http://www.danielpipes.org now bookmarked.
23 posted on 09/29/2001 6:20:00 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: dennisw
I received the following by email, because I do not have permission by the author to post this I am with holding his name:

Our government is now blaming Islamic terrorists for the heinous crimes of last Tuesday. Because of the immense, intimidating power of the Islamic world, our media is allowing Muslim clerics a platform to say that what happened Tuesday has no basis in Islam. (They never do this for pro-life groups when an abortion clinic is bombed!)

To find the truth, one only has to turn to the Holy Book of Islam, the Qur'an (or Koran).

Terrorism is a logical outcome of putting the Qur'an into practice. The Qur'an promotes permanent struggle against non-Muslims - or at least until non-Muslims are converted to Islam, subjected to Islamic authority, or killed. Here is a listing of relevant verses:

Islam promises hell to non-Muslims 3:85, 4:56, 5:37, 5:72, 8:55, 9:28,15:2,21:98-100,22:19-22,22:56-57,25:17-19,25:55,29:53-55,31:13,66:9,68: 10-13,72:14- 15,

Islam warms against mixing with non-Muslims 2:21,3:28,3:118,5:51,5:144,9:7,9:28,58:23,60:4.

Islam calls on Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims 2:191, 2:193, 4:66, 4:84, 5:33, 8:12, 8:15-18, 8:39, 8:59-60, 8:65, 9:2-3, 9:5, 9:14, 9:29, 9:39, 9:73, 9:111, 9:123, 25:52, 37:22-23, 47:4-5, 48:29, 69:30-37.

Islam encourages war against the non-Muslims by glorifying it 2:216, 9:41, 49:15,

or by promising lust in paradise to the Shaheeds who die in such a war 3:142,3:157-158,9:20--21.

For those without a handy Koran, here are just a few examples: "O ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers .... and let them find harshness in you." [Koran, "Repentance" (chapter 9): 123]

"Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute. [Koran, Repentance: 29]

"O believers, do not treat your fathers and brothers as your friends, if they prefer unbelief to belief, whosoever of you takes them for friends, they are evildoers. [Koran, Repentance: 20]

"Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends.... whoso does that belongs not to God. [Koran, The House of Imram: 60]

As hundreds of thousands of Iranian Bahais found out when Ayatollah Khomeni took power, any non Muslim who is not a Jew or a Christian is to be immediately executed if they do not convert on the spot to Islam. Jews and Christians are allowed to keep their religion as second class slaves with no civil rights and extra taxes not paid by Moslems. A non-Muslim's testimony is not acceptable or even allowed in court against Muslims or even against other non-Muslims. Non-Muslims do not have the right to assume leading jobs in the state. A Muslim's life is spared even if he kills a Christian intentionally while a Muslim may only be required to die if he kills another Muslim. The reason, as Muhammad said is that "only Muslims' blood is regarded equal." Thus, no Muslim should be killed for murdering a non-Muslim. On the other hand, if a non-Muslim merely curses a Muslim, he must either be sentenced to death or be converted to Islam! However, if a Muslim murders a non-Muslim, he will only pay a fine.

Dr. Abdul Moumin says, "All Muslims Jurists agree that a judge should be a Muslim and it is forbidden for a non-Muslim to be a judge according to the Qur'anic verse: "There is no authority of the infidels over the Muslims not have the right to propagate their religion in Muslim lands."

It is apparent to everyone, therefore, that the position of a judge is prohibited for a non-Muslim or a woman because Muhammad said plainly, "May God curse the people who appoint a woman to govern them" (Bukhari, Volume 6, p. 10, and Volume 9, p. 70).

A well known saying of Muhammad is: "Do not meet Jews or Christians with greetings. If you ever meet them in the street, force them to the narrowest part of it" (refer to Sahih of Muslim, "Interpretation of Nawawi", Vol. 5, p. 7; also Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya: Zad al-Ma'ad, Part 2, pp. 424, 425).

This sentiment is also backed up in the Koran: "They [the Children of Israel] were consigned to humiliation and wretchedness. They brought the wrath of God upon themselves, and this because they used to deny God's signs and kill His Prophets unjustly and because they disobeyed and were transgressors" (Sura 2:61).

According to the Koran, the Jews try to introduce corruption (5:64), have always been disobedient (5:78), and are enemies of Allah, the Prophet and the angels (2:97­98).

Here are some of the claims that Islam makes against Christians. Some Christians will steal if entrusted with money (3:75). Most Christians are wicked in their lifestyles (3:110; 5:59,66; 57:27). Christians have a great hatred for Muslims in their hearts which they deceitfully hide (3:118,119). Christians rejoice when disaster befalls Muslims. They also act toward Muslims with guile (3:120). Christians compete with one another to make illicit profits (5:62). Christian priests don't forbid their people's sins and instead commit them themselves (5:63). Christian monks devour wealth wantonly and bar people's way to the truth (9:34). Christians display pride, enmity and hatred in their factionalism among themselves (5:14; 30:32).

No wonder there is dancing in the streets of Nablus, Palestine and everywhere in the Muslim world after the events of Tuesday! The whole history of Islam is summed up in their flag--the sword (conquest by force) and crescent (the deceit and stealth of a night attack barely lit by a crescent moon). If you have a "friend" who says he is a good Moslem, he's lying.

No good Moslem could be a real friend unless he can convert you to Islam. If he can't convert you, then anything--lying, cheating and killing--is permissible to him to bring you and yours under Islamic domination.

The men who perpetrated this horrible crime are the real face of Islam. Don't let the Moslem clerics fool you. As Abraham Lincoln said "A house divided against itself can not stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently half slave and half free." Substitute "world" for "government".

Fascism, Communism are nothing to Islam which in terms of deadly devotion of the masses is like Fascism AND like Communism in its universalism. War with Islam is inevitable because it's totally incompatible with the Biblical basis of our Western Civilization They must conquer us or be conquered by our values and beliefs.

Jesus said "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." The Lord doesn't want "any to perish but everyone to come to repentance". He commands us to "make disciples of all nations".

In dealing with the 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, we must follow the way of the Gospel and as best we can, love them into His Kingdom. Of course, the Bible allows us self-defense. But we must defend ourselves in sorrow rather than in anger. Before we begin to defend ourselves, we should look to God and repent of our national sins. We are the biggest purveyor of pornography and other disgusting "entertainment" in the world. We have the highest teen pregnancy rate in the world and nearly the highest abortion rate. It's understandable how many Muslims can view America as the "Great Satan", the cesspool that is polluting the world. We can not over come evil with evil, but only with hearts clean before the Lord. We must fast and pray and be ambassadors for Christ as we have never done in the past. Only then can we hope to defeat the greatest anti-Christ force in the world today.

24 posted on 09/29/2001 6:23:20 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: 2sheep, Thinkin' Gal, RnMomof7, BenF, Lent, beowolf, ratcat, Libertina, DittoJed2, MissAmericanPie
Btt for #24
25 posted on 09/29/2001 6:25:25 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: vrwc54
Steve Emerson is the one that was on FNC and said that Syria and Iraq had 2 G8 summits this year, and that 400+ fundamentalist muslims showed up and agreed to put aside their differences and go after their common enemy. Israel 1 and Israel 2, and the US is Israel 2.
26 posted on 09/29/2001 6:34:15 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: TrueBeliever9
It's understandable how many Muslims can view America as the "Great Satan"

If its understandable, then please explain why these same muslims that deplore pornography were using porn pictures to send their messages? Why where they at strip joints the night before the attacks and why do they walk the streets looking for hookers?

27 posted on 09/29/2001 6:37:03 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: TrueBeliever9
Anyone who opposes Edward Said, "The Nation", and the attenuated passel of American Marxists and Muslim fundamentalist apologists should be applauded.
28 posted on 09/29/2001 6:38:32 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: dennisw
He was interviewed on Fox two days ago and I liked what he said. He doesn't pull any punches.
29 posted on 09/29/2001 6:42:47 AM PDT by janus
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To: janus
I didn't see it but posted the transcript:

'Extreme' CAIR? (Transcript of Brit Hume interview with Daniel Pipes)

30 posted on 09/29/2001 6:48:11 AM PDT by vrwc54
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To: dennisw
BTTT
31 posted on 09/29/2001 7:50:57 AM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: Prodigal Daughter
I meant to bump you on this
32 posted on 09/29/2001 8:06:19 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: D Joyce
Tell that to the Isamic Jihadists within our midst who use the cover of our First Amendment to plan and execute sedition and terrorism against a country that accepted them along with their seditious religion which is incompatible with any other.
33 posted on 09/29/2001 8:14:22 AM PDT by Woodkirk
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To: goldstategop
We are NOT a democracry! Recite the pledge of allegiance and you will find that we are a republic.
34 posted on 09/29/2001 8:15:55 AM PDT by rodeocowboy
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To: dennisw
Go to Pipes' own web site (NOT DanielPipes.com) for a point-by-point refutation of this screed. CAIR is what would have been called a "fellow traveler" organization during the Cold War and uses the same tactics. Unfortunately, W. has given some credibility to these people when in fact they should be exposed as the propoganda front of terrorist organizations.
35 posted on 09/29/2001 8:20:59 AM PDT by financeprof
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To: dennisw
These Islamic organizations can't stand it when anybody questions the umma - the Muslim community. And that community consists of terrorists and their sympathizers. Organizations like CAIR and their apologetics for terrorism and smear campaigns stake them out as enemies of freedom.
36 posted on 09/29/2001 8:27:46 AM PDT by Lent
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To: dennisw
Subject: The Copts need a Strong and Clear voice
From: <Philopater@copticdigest.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 17:32:22 -0400

Dear Readers:

An old proverb says that lies have short legs or in Arabic Elkidib Regleeh
Kosiera. Over the past few years an organized and well-financed public
relations campaign has been orchestrated in the United States media. It has
been proclaiming that there is a strong and large Muslim Arabic voting
block in the US. One will have to admit that they did a decent job as their
exaggeration of the numbers of Muslims and Arabs may have even persuaded or
deceived some members of the media and the Congress.

The recent terrorist attack seems to have torpedoed among other things the
US Arab and Muslim groups self proclaimed importance and political clout
based on numbers. For a starter, many of the papers admit now that the
majority of the so-called Arab Americans are actually Christians not
Muslims. Using data published by the Economist magazine of September 22,
2001 page 31, a breakdown by religion of those so called Arab Americans are
42% catholic, 23% orthodox, 12% protestant and 23% Muslim, i.e. 77% are
Christian and only 23% are Muslim. Furthermore a breakdown by origin is as
follows: 56% from Lebanon, 14% from Syria, 11% from Egypt, 9% from
Palestine, 4% from Jordan, 2% from Iraq, and 4% categorized as other.
Furthermore, most of the Muslims in the US are blacks not Arabs.

Most of the Christians who left their homelands in the Middle East have
done so, because of the persecution of the Arabs and Turks for the
Christian minorities for centuries. The Christian minorities cannot by any
extent of the imagination called as Arabs. They are the descendants of the
original population of the Middle East when the Arabs conquered it circa
638 AD, and who survived the centuries of persecution, impoverishment by
the levied taxation, and forced Islamization and Arabization.

It is interesting to note that the public relations and propaganda campaign
in the US has been exaggerating its strength and political clout for so
long using the mostly Christian population which immigrated from the Middle
East, while denying the facts of ongoing discrimination, persecution and
out right violence committed against the very same population in their own
countries in the Middle East. Again regardless of its lack of truth, one
will have to admire the well-organized Arabic and Islamic propaganda
machine in the US for its effectiveness.
Only recently groups of Christians from Middle East origin including the US
Copts started banding together to defend the human rights of the Christian
minorities in the Middle East. I urge all the readers to consider most
carefully the consequences of this situation. We are being used against our
own will and interest by a well-financed Arabic and Islamic public relation
campaign. A strong and clear voice for the Copts in the American media is
needed. You all have a role in educating the media and public at large
about the Copts and their quest for human rights and equality in their own
homeland. I ask you all to support the US Copts and the Coptic Information
Center. Please check the US Copts web page on www.copts.com and contribute
generously. You can also send your contribution by mail to
The US Copts Association
8116    Arlington Blvd #155
Falls Church, VA 22042
U.S.A.

Philopater
A proud Coptic-American

37 posted on 09/29/2001 8:45:27 AM PDT by Lent
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To: Ann Archy
they sure carry satan's water. anyone that thinks this isn't anti-christ spirit versus Christ is fooling themselves.
38 posted on 09/29/2001 8:46:11 AM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: TrueBeliever9
Will use this to back up my thoughts with my wacky friends and family members who think warm cozy thoughts about the Muslim faith! Thanks for well documented post #24!!
39 posted on 09/29/2001 8:47:27 AM PDT by AnnO
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To: dennisw
Outsatnding thread, Dennis. Thanks for the differentitation of the .com and the .org. I've some reading to do! Let's not forget that in any war (the Muslims see this as war as well), disinfromation campaigns arise like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen. CAIR and AMC appear more like cockroaches than house cleaners ... and it is very plain that the Muslims must clean house or have it obliterated in our war to survive.
40 posted on 09/29/2001 9:00:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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