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To: Conservative til I die
The translation doesn't matter? I think Jesus saying "You are Cephas, and on this Cephas I will build my Church" is hell'sa different than "You are Petros, and on this petra I will build my Church. It makes ALL the difference.

Can you proffer an edition of the Bible that writes it in this way - an original? Rhetorical question. When you can, come talk to us. Until then it's a figment of your imagination. I've never seen a single edition of the Bible in which the differentiation is not present. Not a single edition ever written from original text that could with authority use the word Cephas in both places. You guys really want to argue it. But you have to produce it to be able to say it existed. Then you have grounds to argue that the difference exists. It doesn't.

Thanks for the production, btw, of a nonexistant example. It just buttresses a point I've been working on for two threads and beyond. Fact isn't important. You quote from an edition that doesn't exist and use that as an authority to make an argument. I couldn't make that claim credibly and really didn't, mine was a little different. You just pushed the envelope for us - through a wall as it were. Anyone else got a comment to make on this one. If it isn't Garbage or "junk" scholarship, I don't know what is.

34 posted on 09/28/2001 6:52:03 PM PDT by Havoc
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To: Havoc
What the heck are you talking about. Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic, not Greek, Latin, middle English, or "Today's English Version" English. Are you telling me that I need to find you a modern Aramaic version for you to believe me????

Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic. "Cephas" is the equivalent of Peter in Aramaic. "Cephas" is the rock. "This Cephas" is what the Church is being built upon. Case closed.

It's you that is playing the word games, either dishonestly or ignorantly choosing to use the Greek translation rather than the original Aramaic.

John the Evangelist referred to SImon Peter as Cephas for a reason.
63 posted on 09/29/2001 10:37:56 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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