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"Tradition properly speaking refers not to custom but to underlying principles. The primacy of Peter doesn't mean that Peter was a "pope" like Innocent III but means that he was the person closest to Christ. Ironies abound in history. The Vatican was originally the place where Peter was crucified, and his martyrdom did more than any recognition by an emperor to authenticate his successors' in the scheme of things. The mantle of pontifex maximus, which at one time was held by Julius Caesar, came finally to rest on the shoulders of the successors to the fisherman. Paganism triumph, Harvoc would say. I say that the Good Lord has a sense of humor. Bottom rail on top.

If you are pulling my chain o.k. Otherwise what you are saying is nonsensical, untrue, and/or unproven.

and/or unproven. You and Havoc keep using this term as though we were talking geometry or law. The preponderance of historical evidence supports the Roman claim, nothing supports yours. You keep saying: "It aint' necessarily so" and offer nothing positive to substantiate your claim.