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To: JohnnyM
From Thread 149:

The OT is type and shadows of the reality that is Christ. Christ not only fulfilled the Law, He is also the fulfillment of Scripture. All Scripture points to Christ.

I'm sure you believe this, but I disagree. This line of argumentation is meaningless to me.

why was it ok for Noah to eat of any any animal after the flood, but only after the people of Israel were chosen and freed from Egypt did certain animals become unclean?

Because it was part of the way in which God set aside his Chosen People. It separated them from the customs of the pagan tribes surrounding them. It also serves as a form of spiritual discipline, and a reminder that even the basic activities, the most ordinary moments, of life, are sanctified.

So when Christ died on the Cross he made it possible for all men to have access to the Father and become members of the family of God. The door had been opened for all to join.

Not necessary. They were all already members of the family of God. Jews do not believe that gentiles have to convert to Judaism in order to be "saved". Non-Jews who obey the Noahide laws binding upon all men are known as "righteous gentiles".

The Jews are no longer the chosen people of [God].

Then God is a liar who has broken His covenant with Israel. If He broke the covenant with us, how can you be so sure He won't break the covenant with you?

So the command to Peter was not a breaking of the Law, but a fulfilling of it through Christ.

The fulfillment of the Law is in the observance of it, not in the rejection of it.

36 posted on 09/27/2001 8:34:02 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: angelo
"The Jews are no longer the chosen people of [God]."

Then God is a liar who has broken His covenant with Israel. If He broke the covenant with us, how can you be so sure He won't break the covenant with you?

Allow me to clarify that statement. The jews are still chosen of God, but so now are the saved. God has extended this promise to the Gentiles through Christ.

"So the command to Peter was not a breaking of the Law, but a fulfilling of it through Christ."

The fulfillment of the Law is in the observance of it, not in the rejection of it.

Where is the rejection of the law? The law is no longer valid. Just as you said, when the Messiah comes, certain Laws would no longer be needed. Based on your logic, that would be rejecting the Law. These laws aren't being rejected because they have been fulfilled.

A perfect law is something that is true eternally. It is a sin to murder someone. That was true before God gave us the Law. It is a sin to worship other gods. That was true before God gave us the Law. It is a sin to covet. That was true before God gave us the Law. But the distinction between clean and the unclean wasn't always true. Prior to God giving us the Law, it was legal to eat unclean animals. Which would mean that this law may have a statute of limitations. Just like we have laws today that exist for a purpose. Like there is now a law that bans cell phone use while driving. In certain states it is now illegal to do it, but it was perfectly legal prior to that. This law can also definitely be revoked over time too. Will you still observe all the feasts once your Messiah comes? Will you still sacrifice?? Will you still observe the Sabbath? Will you still make distinctions between clean and unclean?? If not, then why?

Also, Can you comment on the excerpt I wrote from Nee. Do you agree or disagree with what was said?

There is nothing I can say that can make you see, only the Holy Spirit can do that. And my prayer is that all of us on this thread would see the Truth, myself included. If I am wrong in anything I say, that the Holy Spirit would open my eyes, and pray he would open yours too.

JM
83 posted on 09/28/2001 8:11:16 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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