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To: LadyDoc
So we are going to follow up the "wholesome goodness of the average American..." with...what? Some bombs, bullets a hollow trial in some courtroom?
We have been playing world cop so long, a bomb here, a small incursion there, that it only makes sense that at sometime, somplace, someone would get mad enough to strike back.
We know we are "right" Our enemies know their "right" - So what are we going to try to do, hack away at them until...until what?

For every one we kill, ten more will stand up to take their place, then what? Kill some more.

God said, "thou shalt not kill", I think he meant that those words applied to each and every day, not just when we find it convienient.
22 posted on 09/27/2001 7:32:54 PM PDT by Pakrman
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To: Pakrman
God said, "thou shalt not kill", I think he meant that those words applied to each and every day, not just when we find it convienient.

Actually, it should read "Thou shalt not murder" ,certainly what the WTC kamikazies did .

82 posted on 09/27/2001 9:06:56 PM PDT by gatorbait
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To: Pakrman
Christian theology has long held as reasonable the concept of a "just war", the right to defend yourself and your loved ones who are in danger of losing their lives and in fact take the life of the offender. As George Orwell pointed out in WWII, pacifists because they wield more influence in an open, democratic society than they do in fascist dictatorships therefore essentially come down on the side of the dictatorships. If you are happy with that lot,so be it. Most Americans are not.
106 posted on 09/27/2001 9:23:14 PM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: Pakrman
re: God said, "thou shalt not kill", I think he meant that those words applied to each and every day, not just when we find it convienient..."

The King James version has too loose a translation in many parts. This is one of the most egregious errors in the entire book. The older versions of the Bible translate to the very specific statement: "Do not murder." There's a universe of difference there, but "do not murder" is the meaning that has historically been applied to even the King James version of the commandment.

The Old Testament is a veritable history of war upon war in the ancient world. If the commandment was literally "do not kill" and had been obeyed by Moses' followers, then the Old Testament would have come to a bloody halt at the end of the book of Exodus.

When someone commits violence against you, there are only a few very limited situations in which you can respond peacefully and actually resolve the problem. We did not go into Iraq, even though we really wanted to get Saddam. Instead, we went along with UN sanctions against Iraq. So what happened? That's precisely one of the things that is in the litany of "offenses" that the US committed against Islam (not the UN? Why is the UN excused from this when it was their idea? We were the ones who wanted to get Saddam!) In the meantime, Saddam could end the sanctions tomorrow just by complying with the UN demands. So there you are with one very obvious example of how doing something other than killing these offenders will backfire.

Mama <----- anthropology, Prehistoric Civilizations
121 posted on 09/27/2001 9:46:59 PM PDT by MamaSwami
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