[Grampa Dave]

Thanks, this was to me the most important part of this good article:

In 1942, George Orwell wrote, in Partisan Review, this of Great Britain's pacifists:

"Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me.'"

As we see the organized efforts of the so called peace or Antiwar.com side, these simple words of Orwell should be a standard response to all of their treason attempts. This is how they stopped us in the Viet Nam war, which resulted in the slaughter of millions after we left Nam!

[flamefront]

By the way I just noticed after a long period of quiet Vicente Fox is now just referring to pacifism in his conditionalized support of the U.S.:

``Respecting our laws, respecting human rights, respecting legality, respecting the pacifist will of our country, we committed this -- I would say -- unconditional support to the government of the United States, to the governments of the world who are fighting terrorism.''