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To: DrewsDad
Pacifists like Jesus and Ghandi take notice. You are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
16 posted on 09/26/2001 9:16:03 AM PDT by Hidy
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To: Hidy
Pacifists like Jesus and Ghandi take notice. You are with us, or you are with the terrorists.

Jesus never said one word about war, except that there would be "wars and rumors of war." His was not an earthly kingdom.

20 posted on 09/26/2001 9:31:06 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Hidy
Pacifists like Jesus and Ghandi take notice. You are with us, or you are with the terrorists.

I wouldn't class Jesus and Ghandi as do-nothing pacifists. They were activists who (mostly) practiced and preached love and non-violence in opposition to hate and violence.

26 posted on 09/26/2001 9:41:31 AM PDT by ThreeOfSeven
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To: Hidy
Pacifists like Jesus and Ghandi take notice.

Such wry wit!

Since we're in the mood to quote Orwell, why don't you dig up his essay on Ghandi. He points out that, if India had been controlled by Germans instead of Brits, Ghandi would have been kicked to death the moment he got out of line.

As for Jesus, I seem to remember that he chased the money-lenders out of the Temple. (He also lamented high taxes by observing that "The poor are with us always" -- but that is another story.

Fact is, pacificists can only exist when protected by the sort of democratic societies that are prepared to use force in defense of even their most illogical and ungrateful citizens.

In your case, even the snide ones.

40 posted on 09/26/2001 10:05:13 AM PDT by Big Bunyip
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