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To: madrussian
Where does it state that illegals helped them gain false id's? Herbert Villalobos was the name but he wasn't identified as legal or illegal.

Listen, I support stemming the tide of illegal aliens into the country but I do NOT support the mass deportation of illegals nor do I support shutting down our borders.

The far majority of People come to America for opportunity. A $15K job here means the chance at living somewhere beyond the garbage dump they left. I cannot fault these people for doing what it takes to support their family and strive for success. Do I wish they would have come into the country legally? Sure. We all do.

The easier answer is "shut down the borders, deport any illegals and big a huge wall around our country." Whether or not it is the RIGHT answer is the debate.

15 posted on 09/25/2001 10:10:04 AM PDT by Solson
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To: Solson
The AP report says

The affidavit by FBI special agent Brian Weidner said that Villalobos, using the alias Oscar Diaz, signed papers certifying that Abdul Aziz Al Omari, one of the hijacker suspects, lived in Virginia.

A second man, ``a Hispanic male'' who is a confidential witness, signed both a residency certification and an identify affidavit that was used by another suspected hijacker, Ahmed Saleh Al Ghamdi, to obtain a driver's license, the affidavit said.

It said the unidentified man was standing in a parking lot near the Arlington, Va., Department of Motor Vehicles office along with several Hispanic men, including Villalobos, when three Arab men approached him in a van and asked for help in getting Virginia identification cards.

Villalobos and his acquaintances then drove together to an attorney's office nearby with the Arabs following. The papers, which can be used as identification for getting a driver's license, require an attorney's signature.

Clearly a gang of Hispanics helping illegals gain driver licenses. Whether the gang consists of illegals or legals is not reported, but that is most probable and even if they are legal they are clearly there to serve the illegals. To put it another way, the terrorists are blending in and get undetected due to the millions of illegals present in the US.

17 posted on 09/25/2001 10:57:27 AM PDT by madrussian
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To: Solson
Do I wish they would have come into the country legally? Sure. We all do.

Who they? The same illegals? America doesn't provide a mechanism to immigrate for any third-worlder, just because they want to make more money.

The easier answer is "shut down the borders, deport any illegals and big a huge wall around our country." Whether or not it is the RIGHT answer is the debate.

It's not the easy answer, that's what the law says and that's the right answer. The easy answer is to ignore the law and not pay attention to an invasion of third-worlders who don't give a damn what you think whether they are welcome here.

18 posted on 09/25/2001 11:01:32 AM PDT by madrussian
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