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To: Illbay
Illbay wrote:
"Ask the sailors on the USS Liberty about our true-blue ally Israel."

Ask the CIA which sent a spy ship into coastal waters between waring counties, after Israel told the US to pull out all ships. Israelis mistook it for a Russian spy ship, which was also operating in the area. I suppose American forces never accidentally attacked American or allied forces during war? 1/3 our causualties in the Gulf War were friendly fire. This happened at a time when we expected our forces to be in the general vicinity. The Israelis did not expect the US to be arrogant or stupid enough to ignore warnings and secretly put a spy ship into a war zone. You interpret the fault to be Israel's, I see it is a mutual mistake in the confusion of war.

"Ask those who were compromised--and some apparently killed or imprisoned--because of the antics of Jonathan Pollard who is STILL a "hero" to Israelis and American Jews with questionable loyalties. "

Pollard handed over information on Arab states and Soviet weapons. The CIA line that a Naval analyst had information on spies is laughable. The CIA needed to blame someone for the loss of agents. We now know who is responsible: Aldrich Ames, who had full access to the spies in his job with counter-intell. Ames has admitted his role. Only the Arabist or the ignorant continue the lie about Pollard.
"We ought to use Israel as Israel uses us. But let's dispense with this silliness about their "trueness" as an ally. It insults our intelligence."
As does ignoring facts. Israel has allowed itself to be attacked to help US interests. It has failed to respon to terrorism to support US interests.

46 posted on 09/25/2001 8:52:19 AM PDT by rmlew (rmlew@erols.com)
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To: rmlew
The Liberty was in international waters. Israel knew who she was and what flag she flew.

Pollard deserves death, as does every miserable excuse of a spy, like the Cuban-American woman caught last week.

Try to justify it all you want, but American interests are and should be the first concern of every American. Americans should not be making excuses for the intrigues against America of foreign states.

That is pathetic, no matter who the foreign state might be. Israel is nothing special in this regard.

56 posted on 09/25/2001 9:34:13 AM PDT by Illbay
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