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To: Illbay. DistantVoice
Ask the sailors on the USS Liberty about our true-blue ally Israel. Ask those who were compromised--and some apparently killed or imprisoned--because of the antics of Jonathan Pollard who is STILL a "hero" to Israelis and American Jews with questionable loyalties.

There you go again. Tsk tsk. That "dual loyalty" charge is the oldest anti-Semitic canard in the book. You reveal yourself.

14 posted on 09/25/2001 6:42:12 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
Actually, it is YOU that reveal the paucity of your argument, when you try to equate American patriotism with anti-Semitism.

Get this through your thick, loyalty-conflicted skull: Most FReepers are loyal to the U.S. and to U.S. interests. If people mess with us, they get on our sh*t list, get it?

Israel is there for a couple of egregious offenses.

You can call it "anti-semitism" if you want, but it is no more that than it is "anti-teutonism" to applaud the fact we kicked Hitler's *ss in WWII.

23 posted on 09/25/2001 6:50:43 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: veronica
There you go again. Tsk tsk. That "dual loyalty" charge is the oldest anti-Semitic canard in the book. You reveal yourself.

So typical. Can't answer an argument, so you slander the person who made it. The fact is Pollard is the best counter-example to the claim that Israel is a close friend. Do friends spy on each other?

The fact that many Jewish American citizens are calling for Pollard's release shows that there are some Jewish Americans with dual loyalty, just like there are some Arab Americans with dual loyalty, or Chinese Americans with dual loyalty, etc. The fact is all ethnic groups in the US have some members who have dual loyalty. Why should Jews be any different?

If you say that it is anti-semitic to entertain the possibility that some Jews might have dual loyalty, then you are asserting that Jews are somehow better than everyone else. You are in essense saying that it is impossible for Jews to have dual loyalty while it is possible for people other groups to have it. That seems like anti-gentilism to me.

38 posted on 09/25/2001 8:04:35 AM PDT by traditionalist
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