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No, I Don't Want To Die
The American Partisan ^ | September 24, 2001 | LPR

Posted on 09/24/2001 6:36:53 PM PDT by TheWriter

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1 posted on 09/24/2001 6:36:53 PM PDT by TheWriter
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To: Mulder, RU4Liberty, Clinton's A Liar, Alamo Girl, rdf, BibChr, Jeff Head, ourboros
Bump
2 posted on 09/24/2001 6:48:06 PM PDT by TheWriter
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To: TheWriter
Wow!!

The Y2K syndrome lives on!

Buy; hoard; store; build shelters; hide; get gas masks;
store gasoline in your attic... etc etc etc..

And most of all, accept losing Constitutional rights.

(Oh yeah, and buy water by the mega-gallons)

Jeesh

3 posted on 09/24/2001 6:56:06 PM PDT by Deep_6
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To: TheWriter
Wow!!

The Y2K syndrome lives on!

Buy; hoard; store; build shelters; hide; get gas masks;
store gasoline in your attic... etc etc etc..

And most of all, accept losing Constitutional rights.

(Oh yeah, and buy water by the mega-gallons)

Jeesh

4 posted on 09/24/2001 6:56:07 PM PDT by Deep_6
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To: TheWriter
Check out shelter in place guidelines,

 

Shelter-in-Place

Shelter-in-Place has been proven effective when there is insufficient time to evacuate.  The Shelter-in-Place steps are:

 

·       Go inside you home or the home closest to you.

·       Take you household pets inside with you, but only if it can be done quickly.

·       Begin Shelter-in-Place procedures by closing all windows, doors, vents and fireplace flews.

·       Turn off all heating and cooling ventilation systems.

·       Turn off all devices that circulate air into and through the house, such as window and attic fans, and swamp coolers.

·       Move everyone into an interior room, such as a bath, take a phone with you.

·       Turn on radio.

·       Do not use phone unless it is an emergency.

·       Cover windows, doors, and ducts with pre-cut plastic sheets and duct tape.  (Plastic trash bags, aluminum foil, duct tape, wet towels or wet rags may be used.)

·       Turn on warm water.  Water vapor in the air can help remove ammonia vapor and increases the temperature and pressure of the room which will help prevent vapors from entering the room.

·       Stay inside and wait for further instruction by radio, telephone, or until LEPC officials say you can safely leave.

  

After the emergency is over, you may be instructed to open your windows and doors to ventilate the building,  and go outside

Likely your best protection for chemical and biological attacks as the exposure times will likely be short.

5 posted on 09/24/2001 6:57:07 PM PDT by Fzob
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To: TheWriter
Now is not the time to read Steven King's ,"The Stand".

Or maybe it IS.

6 posted on 09/24/2001 7:00:43 PM PDT by tet68
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To: Fzob
Duct tape. It always comes down to duct tape.
7 posted on 09/24/2001 7:08:49 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Deep_6
On the contrary, Deep 6, this is neither lightly considered nor implausible.

A slew of Russian scientists have confirmed that they began aggressively pursuing a smallpox variant as a biological weapon the year the United States discontinued its vaccination program. Within the last year, the United States government authorized the mass production of additional smallpox vaccinations; however, they will not be ready for the public as a whole until 2004.

Among the many treaty violations China participated in was the distribution of containers, laboratory supplies, and components (including chemical precursors and spores) for biological and chemical weapons. The violating countries included Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran. Please feel free to examine any of the GOA (General Accounting Office) or CRS (Congressional Research Service) reports on these.

Two weeks of food is actually considered a good amount to store in the event of any emergency.

Further, no where in the article does it mention giving up rights. It discusses what the Government considers the top 5 biological threats, what their symptoms are, and how long it will take before symptoms occur.

8 posted on 09/24/2001 7:31:27 PM PDT by TheWriter
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To: TheWriter
BUMP!
9 posted on 09/24/2001 7:31:42 PM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: tet68
The Stand is a decent book, but fictious. The above are hard facts, and documented perceived threats, being watched for by our government in the days ahead.
10 posted on 09/24/2001 7:32:41 PM PDT by TheWriter
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To: Deep_6
And most of all, accept losing Constitutional rights.

My eyesight is not the best, can you direct me to where in the article this is espoused?

Don't get me wrong here, I share your concern for the potential loss of constitutional rights. I'm just having a difficult time finding anything in this article that mentions such.

Oh, and about that Y2K stuff? Hoo boy! That's about as crazy as some terrorists taking out the WTC with some hijacked planes, aint it? Jeesh, some people, huh?! That stuff aint never gonna happen here!

11 posted on 09/24/2001 7:50:32 PM PDT by Hoosier Patriot
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To: TheWriter
THIS IS WHAT YOUR FRIEND NEVER NEVER TOLD YOU!!!

HOW YOU STOP TERRORISM??

CLEAN SHIP BY RIDDING AMERICA OF ANTI-AMERICANS and SOCIALISTS AND TERRORISTS.

THE BRADY BUNCH, CLINTON, GORE, SCHUMER, FINESTEIN, HANDGUN CONTROL INC. AS THEY ARE THE ENEMY WITHIN OUR BORDERS.

THE AMERICAN CITIZEN IS THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE ALWAYS.

THROW THE RASCELS OUT!!!!!

HERE IS THE REAL STORY

(THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISARMING US)

http://www.saveourguns.com/peapodschumer.jpg

HERE IS THE REAL STORY ON ARMING PILOTS.

FIVE THOUSAND LOST LIVES FOR THE WANT OF TWO THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY DOLLARS.

Israel Airlines bolts the Cockpit door and all Pilots and copilots carry Firearms.

(TELL THE AIRLINE PRESIDENTS AND CEO'S)

New Release

Ponder for a moment.

We trust a pilot with a 30 million-dollar plane knowledgeable of complex airplane functions, but government policy will not allow them to operate a simple firearm.

I’LL FLY AGAIN WHEN PILOTS ARE ARMED.

Israel Airlines bolts the Cockpit door and all Pilots and copilots carry Firearms.

Scanning the websites this week the following thread from Pilots, Law Enforcement, and American Citizens discuss ways to take positive action against air terrorism.

We trust a fancy security question (Thanks to Jim Kallstom, former FBI, did you pack your bags?) but not millions of active and retired law enforcement officers to Citizen Carry on an airplane.

May I rant for a second! Get these liberal, antigun activists out of our government decision making process. Consider, Israel Airlines policy is to bolt the door, arms it pilots, and has armed travelers in the cabin.

We allow lowly-paid gate-guards to gate dis-arm us, creating a "killing zone of disarmed citizens", as passingers "do battle" in the sky with terrorists, using passion for weapons because misguided government policy has left us defenseless.

The government can not protect you when the terrorist is eyeball to eyeball with you. Now they have ban my pocketknife used to clean my nails. What next, bottles, because they can be smashed for a weapon??

Most all of the former military pilots strapped firearms to their legs when on active duty. Today they are considered not capable, wear the wrong uniform, or untrust worthy.

This BS about putting a 9mm hole in the skin of an airplane will bring it down is more rhetoric and fiction than fact. Just ask the thousand of airmen who returned from flights over Germany in WWII. How about the 747 over Hawaii with a 20-foot hole in the side. Still got a problem with possible decompression? Consider the alternative!

I’ll trust anyday my life to any active or retired law enforcement officer to CITIZEN CARRY on any airline.

I’ll trust anyday my life to any pilot or copilot active or retired to carry on any airline.

I’ll trust any American citizen willing to CITIZEN CARRY after extensive training to carry on any airline. It is a huge responsibility, however, the current "Killing Zones" set up by faulty thinking is killing our husbands, wives, children, and our nation.

I am sure thousands perhaps millions of American’s would trust their life to armed pilots, copilots, air crew members, retired, policemen, FBI, CIA, ATF, or American Citizens willing to train, quality, and stay current with cabin safety issues keeping America airlines safe.

I personally trust all of the above personnel, rather than phony security questions, low-pay air guards, unlocked backdoor food and cleaning functions or gates at airports, or government officials with big titles.

WHO DO YOU TRUST THE GOVERNMENT? OR DO YOU TRUST HONEST AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO LIVE AND BREATH FAMILY SAFETY WHEN TRAVELING?

What do you want in your cockpit, a pilot and copilot with a firearm, or a terrorist? 2,180 dollars (four colt pistols)would have prevented all four terrorist acts and saved five thousand lives.

Government will spend billions of dollars with highly visible, and breach-able security that irritates American citizens during check-in when other more effective obvious solutions exist. Just ask Israel.

Thousands of American veterans, retired LEO's and American Citzens want to sign up today to fight terrorism. Don't tell them they are unqualified. If you do tell them they are unqualifed, they may have a word or two for you.

Visit keepandbeararms.com to carry the fight.

Paul Williams Ninth generation American Patriot

( KEEPANDBEARARMS )

WWW.KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM

Advising Director

end Five thousand American Citizens lost their life for the want of two thousand one hundred eight dollars.

(TELL THE AIRLINE PRESIDENTS AND CEO'S)

Other websites with Pilot talk

( Federal Observer help pilots reclaim cockpits )

http://www.federalobserver.com/index.php?section=Arm+Pilots+NOW%21

(Five thousand lose live for want of a shoelace)

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ba6ac034145.htm

( Serra Times talk freedom )

http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/sep/18/arfs091801.htm

( Kamikaze Pilots on U.S. Soil)

http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/sep/14/arfl091401.htm

(Dear Airline Executives)

http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/sep/18/arnj091801.htm

(Where is Mommy?)

http://www.saveourguns.com/selfdefense.htm

( Mothers for Self defense )

http://www.2asisters.org/safety/index.htm

<a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24549”>( Captains to FAA Focus on cockpits Pilots argue for bullet-proof doors, cameras, guns)</a><P> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24549 <P> end <P>

12 posted on 09/24/2001 10:19:23 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (lawjj2@allways.net)
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To: TheWriter
FYI--

NBC/ABC Warfare Survival Skills Links

Also, I'll cross-link the above with your article.

13 posted on 09/25/2001 5:25:27 AM PDT by backhoe (Has that clinton "legacy" made you feel *safer* yet? ? ?)
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FYI
14 posted on 09/25/2001 5:31:31 AM PDT by logos
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To: TheWriter
Always ... always ... always -

plan for the worst; pray and work for the best.

Odd that some would fault you for taking the time to sit down with your husband and make plans for the very worst possibilities. Better now than when there is no time left to talk and think rationally.

Well done. Thank you for posting this.

15 posted on 09/25/2001 5:34:24 AM PDT by logos
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In order to protect yourself and your family from Bio weapons.

1. Be alert for signs of strange activity, crop dusters over highly populated areas is a good one.
2. Be prepared to stay inside for a while, 2 weeks may be excessive but not crazy.
3. Keep a supply of dust masks or surgical masks capable of filtering 1 micron or less. These are easy to get and inexpensive. Many people have bought military protective masks, if you have one ensure you have real filters not training filters and you have spare filters on hand. The military masks are overkill, but if you have them use them.

It is almost certain that you will never need these. But it never hurts to be prepared.

16 posted on 09/25/2001 5:47:50 AM PDT by Ispy4u
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To: TheWriter, Deep_6
"Within the last year, the United States government authorized the mass production of additional smallpox vaccinations; however, they will not be ready for the public as a whole until 2004"

I believe they have ordered 40 million doses. I assume they think they can contain outbreak to a number less than that. If the government deems the threat sufficient to take this action then one must assume that the threat is real. Y2K preparations by the government were also sufficient to motivate me to make basic preparations to survive in case of calamity. In the military we called these contingency plans. You want to have a plan regardless of which direction fate leads you. It's not to be scoffed at but admired and advocated. The Writer will be in a position to help those that are panicking because they do not have a plan. That is good citizenship and a good example of self defense.

17 posted on 09/25/2001 5:47:55 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: TheWriter
It certainly seems prudent to me to think ahead about how you would react to a biological attack. The government is worried about it and we know our enemies are trying to develop it, if they haven't already done so.

Anyone who says it's not a legitimate threat is employing denial as a defense mechanism.

Not that there really is any. Gas masks are better for a chemical attack which is instantly obvious. A biological attack is likely to occur with no instant obvious sign and most won't be aware of it until they've probably been exposed. Very few could be saved by medical personnel as resources would be quickly exhausted.

Your plan seems like a sensible approach, but the best solution is use any means necessary to stop an attack of this nature before it can be launched.

18 posted on 09/25/2001 5:56:46 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Deep_6
What will you and your family do if you lose water and electricity for a week? Drag them to a refugee camp to live on handouts?

Oh yeah, that can't happen here...

19 posted on 09/25/2001 6:03:45 AM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: backhoe
Thanks for the link!
20 posted on 09/25/2001 6:19:52 AM PDT by TheWriter
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