Evolution: A Series on PBS tonight

PBS ^ | Sept. 24, 2001 | PBS

[dubyagee]

Of course not. Nothing that is created in a day can be created by natural selection. You're comparing something purpose built with a process that takes billions of years with many failed approaches. It's a totally invalid analogy.

In other words, we're never gonna actually see this happen, it takes too long, so get over it and just have FAITH......

[Aquinasfan]

They ___ASSUME___ that knowledge is possible, that sense experience is reliable (epistemology), that the universe is regular (metaphysics), and that scientists should be honest (ethics). Hahahaha

Without these *assumptions* ____which they CANNOT VERIFY within the limits of their own methodology_____ scientific inquiry would soon collapse.

Preach it brother!

[Terriergal]

I was thinking the other day that there really isn't much room in Christianity for Evolution either.

[Terriergal]

"when you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains, however improbable , must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes in _The Hound Of The Baskervilles_

1. an assumption of impossibility is made 2. What is left *must* be the truth, however impossible.

Neither Creationism nor Evolutionism is less probable or more provable. Both are matters of faith, in the end. Because evolutionists also come down to the point where they cannot explain something crucial to the argument, just as Creationists do.

The question then becomes, why does one person make the assumption that there *is* a personal creator, and the other person does not? What is the motivation behind the decision?

[Terriergal]

Close tags please....

[Terriergal]

How about closing a few more tags...?

[Aquinasfan]

#79 Great post.

once the theory of Intelligent Design is allowed into the debate, Darwin is destined to follow Freud and Marx onto the ash heap of history.

That would be funny if it weren't so sad. How many kids this very day are learning about peppered moths, finch beak variation and the infamous paintings of embryo development?

[NonZeroSum]

In other words, we're never gonna actually see this happen, it takes too long, so get over it and just have FAITH......

Actually we do see it happen, in organisms that have fast generational times, like bacteria. The tuberculosis bug has evolved to become resistant to most traditional antibiotics...

But to get to your original point, as a matter of fact, it is a kind of faith. To believe in science as the best means to achieving knowledge about the natural world, is indeed axiomatic. There's no way to "prove" that it's the best way, because the very concepts of logic and proof are part of it.

If one believes that knowledge comes from a divine revelation, there is no way to prove them wrong, since proofs are not the means by which they are persuaded. I freely admit to having faith in the scientific method and logic as a means to understand the universe.

[Terriergal]

Let's try this... Fix?

[NonZeroSum]

What is it that's broken? I'm using Opera, and it looks fine in my browser.

[ksen]

Thanks for posting that article. I hope the Darwinists address the issues raised in it instead of scoffing at it.

-ksen

[PatrickHenry]

Thanks for the bump, but please, there's no space in my screen name.

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[BibChr]

Wow. Really good. (Which means, of course, that I really agree!)

Did you read this? — Why I Am (Still) a Christian.

We could be twins!

Dan

[Servant of the Nine]

I was thinking the other day, that in Christianity there is room for evolution, but in Evolution there is no room for Christianity.
Why is that?

That is because there is no room for religion in science. Science, by definition is the study of how the universe works when there is no divine intervention. If there is divine intervention, then it is theology, not science.

So9

[AndrewC]

Other than that, there's nothing that the 2LoT says about evolution or creation.

Are you implying that, given energy, evolution or creation are free of any consequence of the second law of thermodynamics?

[VadeRetro]

Are you implying that, given energy, evolution or creation are free of any consequence of the second law of thermodynamics?

Ooooh! Andrew has some more lawyerly nitpicks up his sleeve! (Shudder!)

Are you implying that the standard cretinist statements concerning order never coming from disorder unless directed by an intelligence are correct?

[AndrewC]

Ooooh! Andrew has some more lawyerly nitpicks up his sleeve! (Shudder!)

I see you've decided to climb out of your hole and contribute in your now typical way with ad hominem. Buzz off, the question was not for you. To think I used to admire you.

[VadeRetro]

Personally, I think no violation of the actual second law of thermodynamics has ever been observed, in or out of evolution. Free pass not required.

Buzzing off to lunch, but I'll be checking back in on this thread.

[Stingray]

There you go again, challenging the orthodoxy of atheism's creation myth! ;)

Good read. Later...

[van_erwin]

I think it's obvious - anyone who believes in evolution has been duped by the Liberals into taking a step away from God.

As far as I'm concerned, you can't call yourself a Conservative if you believe in evolution. God created man whole and in His image, just as He created the universe in six days, approximately ten thousand years ago.

For proof, read the Bible.
If you need more help understanding Creationism, read Creationism.org or the Creation Explanation.