[hopefulpilgrim]

Hi, Mom. Faithfulpilgrim says that Ishmael was the father of the Arab people. Abraham was very wrong to follow Sarah's advice and have a child by Hagar to try to "help God" fulfill His promise to Abraham and Sarah for a son (which turned out to be Isaac). Not trusting God's promise and taking matters into their own hands was a big mistake.

[RnMomof7]

Not trusting God's promise and taking matters into their own hands was a big mistake.

Wood ,hay and stubble (our own plans)...always feed a fire...You are right!