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To: ReveBM
The Brig Gen insisted that troops with a "western philosophy" and a will not to die would have "little chance against men who are willing to give their lives in a fight".

I don't understand this comment. Americans are willing to give their lives to their country as well. When has that ever not been the case in war? These terrorists may be zealots but they don't stand a chance against our highly trained, motivated and well-equipped soldiers.

Our real worry in this conflict is not our how soldiers will perform in the field but how civilians will react to more instances of terror on American soil. This is the only real advantage these terrorists have, if it can be called that - they are willing to murder innocent civilians.

4 posted on 09/24/2001 6:34:43 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Right! I mean, if we aren't training our soldiers to be willing to give their lives for a worthy cause to defeat the enemy, what are they doing there?

I *do* feel somewhat sorry about a story I read the other day. It profiled a single mom that had joined the army to get a steady paycheck with good benefits, and said that she didn't feel ready for war. Granted, she probably is not going to be the first person dropped into Afghanistan, but if there are more people like this among our forces, they need to be replaced.

8 posted on 09/24/2001 7:02:59 AM PDT by ReveBM (reve_britmil@hotmail.com)
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To: SamAdams76
>>>>>When has that ever not been the case in war? <<<<<<

Think again. What those who got Kosovo Medal got it for? For bravery and willlingness to risk their lives? Or for dropping cluster bombs from 15,000ft on civilian targets, For killing 14 tanks and 1500 civilians, for destroying passenger train and TV station?

With that kind of attitude (save your butt by bombing form high altitude), one does not win the wars, especially not in Afganistan where there is nothing left to bomb.

Clitoon is gone, but his legacy in the military will take years to fix.

As of German KSK, they have experience with radical islamist terrorists, they TRAINED them. With American blessing, Gen. Reinhardt and his KSK team provided training for Kosovo Albanian terrorists in Albania. Bin Laden network was fully operational in Albania at that time and benefited from western know-how. One of the Albanian cells is related to hijackers.

11 posted on 09/24/2001 7:22:08 AM PDT by DTA
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