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To: poet, Nuke'm Glowing, Inspector Harry Callahan, Jim Robinson
Thank you, poet. Yes, I'm saying be careful.

That makes me paranoid. Then I point out where Dick Hastert is calling for national ID card and NG pontificates that we shouldn't be concerned until it passes?

Bullshit.

NG, it is your type that allowed the Germans to disarm and enslave the Jews. Wait until the law is passed? Get a grip. The fact that a supposed conservative is even proposing the idea of national ID cards should scare the hell out of everyone in this country (especially true conservatives) - except those that worship at the altar of the State. Where do you worship NG? Do I need to change my designation as a conservatice republican? I sure as hell don't want to be associated with a party and/or political philosophy that embraces national ID cards and an "us vs them" mentality where legitimate criticism of government is concered. I refuse to become that which I have despised all my life - fascists and Socialists. How about you? Is it ok to be a Fascist if that fascism is approved by the RNC?

Label me or anyone else that raises concerns traitors; libertarians (as if that's a negative thing, I thought polictial expression was supposed to be a good thing?) or worse?

You need to understand something NG - the country and this forum are founded on the proposition of limited government, NO STIFLING OF DEBATE as practiced by the mainstream media and the liberals. Stop acting like those this forum was formed to defeat.

155 posted on 09/24/2001 8:50:16 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: Abundy
You need to reread some of my other posts. I am NOT looking to stifle debate, but agree with Jim Robinson's posts earlier. There is a fine balance which must be struck. The "national ID card" is a fallacy which people will shoot holes through soon enough and shoot down soon enough. If a schmuck who wants to commit a terrorist act can steal ID's, uniforms, etc. from airlines to pull this off, how hard will it be for them to create a fake national ID card? Before I get excited about those rights being abridged I want some proof that they are seriously going to be enacted as it's all speculation now.
Now as far as the Germany comment, I guess I had that coming for the tinfoil reference. But I do not, have not, and never will agree to nor surrender my rights, especially the 2nd amendment. So you are quite wrong on that arguement my friend as I would never ask you to give that right up either.
172 posted on 09/24/2001 9:12:38 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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