Unfree Republic

Lew Rockwell ^ | 9/24/01 | Jeff Elkins

[DB]

You can start with What Does Osama Bin Laden Want? - Nothing we have. by David Plotz

BTW, who starting calling people names? You know what they say...

[Moby Grape]

In addition to revisionist history, out of context quotes, silly parniod monster-under-the-bed thinking, the Lew Rockwell gaggle of honking geese are also crybabies.....they love to call others names, like socialist, statist, golobalist, and many other "ists", but when facts and arguments a fired back at their bunkers, out comes the "we have been mistreated" whines.

[DeckTheHallsHolly]

I really hate the first post in the morning...

Old essay exam trick...If you do not know what you are talking about reguarding topic A compare topic A with topic B which you think you might know something about and then write essay answer about topic B. nuff said.

PS Do you know that if cats get in to catnip and eat enough. They will get diarrhea.

[snorkeler]

I've read calls (on other threads)for rationing (even though there is no shortage of any important goods),

On an e-list to which I belong, people were screaming about the islolated cases of gas pricing being doubled on day two. Demanding rationing! The story (unconfirmed) of a local sheriff "getting in his face" ie. physically intimmidating one station owner into setting the price at the level the sheriff thought it should be! And the people cheered!!! So a local elected politican usurped the right to set the price for a private businessman and it was just fine and dandy..... I'm not defending the scumbuckets who tried to take advantage of the situation, but faced with such a power grab by a local pol, I'd have to stand with the scumbucket.

[DB]

Ack... Should be "If you think..."

Sorry...

[Publius6961]

Freerepublic is influential due to the great number of posters and lurkers the site attracts. I am concerned that censorship and banning of excellent contributors will eventually result in reduced readership.

Ah... the beauty of living in a free society, which values the concept of private property is that you don't have to wait to get banned before leaving.

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

The tolerance we display for the ignorant, the cowardly and the constant stream of disruptors is testament itself to the dedication to free speech that FR displays.

But under certain circumstances there is a limit.

[mountaineer]

Jeff Elkins is a freelance consultant and writer

Oh no, FR is being dissed by an unemployed guy! Oh, the shame.

[Publius6961]

Well, our nation is under attack by foreign powers. What do you suggest? Letting them bomb our cities at will? Murder our citizens by the thousands? Gonna turn the other cheek? Gonna negotiate with terrorists? Going to appease the cold-blooded murderers? Join the Peaceniks? Protest against your own country during wartime? Ally with Hanoi Jane? Dodge the draft? Run off to Candada? Collaborate with the enemy? Commit treason? We are at war and like the man said, you are either with US or with them. Which will it be?

BUMP!

What you said.

By the way, FR seems to be finally back to normal here since Saturday.

And at the risk of seemingly joining the Rockwell conspiracy delusionists, are you really convinced that the DNS lashup was "accidental"?

[DB]

And the writer also conveniently doesn't mention the fact that radical Islamic forces have been making war in countries all over south East Asia. They have murdered thousands of Christians for example in these countries in just the last few years. These were places that had nothing to do with America or Israel yet they were laid to waste because of their previous government/religions. We unlike the others they've made war with have armies. Therefore they can't effectively make war overtly with us. They have to fight covertly. And they are. They think they can win. It is amazing there are so many that think if we simply pull back our armed forces into America and hide out radical Islamic followers will ignore us. Just appease and all will be fine… Unbelievable…

[Clinton's a liar]

If Elkins is the Constitutionalist that you claim he is, he wouldn't be bitching and moaning about censorship -- comparing Free Republic to a government entity. This website is not a government entity -- it's private property -- and, as a supposed Constitutionalist, he missed that basic, underlying and fundamental truth.

[DB]

Have you seen the article linked on reply #101?

It's a good one... If it hasn't been posted it should.

[Osinski]

Ah, now we bring my mother into it. A liberal to the end obviously. Or a tinfoil apologist? Which is it, the public wants to know?

I don't really know. She's your mother.

[Publius6961]

Sure, I don't want any more Americans to die to a terrorist attack; but I don't want this country to become a police state to accomplish that goal.

Now that's a conundrum, isn't it?

I have no doubt in my mind that if the Qaeda existed when the Republic was founded, all those rights you hold so dear would not have been granted to non-citizens. Speculation sure, but reason and induction are still valid tools.

My opinion is that a Constitutional Amendment is overdue to address this reality of modern times. It also would address the other weakness, illegal immigration.

Legal immigration has always been a pillar in the foundation of our stregth as a country, but as of late it has become a joke.
A very expensive joke, paid with the price of the blood of thousands of our innocent citizens. And thousands more will die as the price of doing nothing to address who the rightful recipients are of those rights you hold so dear.

Illegal aliens and terrorist should not have any rights.
We ignore the present danger at our peril.

[Publius6961]

I've certainly learned a lot reading the words of some very eloquent FReepers, especially during the election snafu last year. There are some very intelligent Freepers out there.

Well, that doesn't mean we can assume an academic, detached demeanor when we witness the Mass Murder of 6000+ of our citizens.

That is surely a hint that we might be doing something wrong.

I take it you were not personally touched by the World Trade Center Mass Murder?

[Lysander]

What if we have to get tough with liberal and libertarian punks who try to inhibit the war effort?

Und zee must hab zee right uniforms too! Vee must start virst mit zee terrorists, zen vee must git zee seperatists, und zee militias. Zeen vee vill cleanzup zee oder undezirables like zee homozexuals und zee gypsies. Mine Amerika uber alles. Zink right!

[piasa]

Sanctimonious hogwash. Everything old is new again – the keyboard warriors of FreeRepublic would be right at home in 1917 shilling for Wilson

And the people on his board would no doubt be perfectly at home shilling for Hitler... anything to stay out of war, after all.

[piasa]

Or Stalin, or Ortega, or Castro...

[Protagoras]

But taking cheap shots at us FReepers is not indicative of what the reality of our opinions are...

Us freepers? You have been here since two days after the attack, you ain't no freeper. Your screenname gives you away as it tries to give the whole site a bad name. Crawl back under you rock.

Or revert to whatever your screenname was before you were banned, which is a virtual certainty.

[Cultural Jihad]

Was there something in particular?

Nope. They just wanted him gone.

And the unnamed 'they' who 'just wanted him gone' is?

"Well, our nation is under attack by foreign powers. What do you suggest? Letting them bomb our cities at will? Murder our citizens by the thousands? Gonna turn the other cheek? Gonna negotiate with terrorists? Going to appease the cold-blooded murderers? Join the Peaceniks? Protest against your own country during wartime? Ally with Hanoi Jane? Dodge the draft? Run off to Candada? Collaborate with the enemy? Commit treason? We are at war and like the man said, you are either with US or with them. Which will it be?" -They

[Lysander]

...We survived the War Between the States and kept our constitutional republic.

Ever here of the concept 'the consent of the governed?' It was thrown out in the war of northern aggression. After the Federal imperial government got done with the south they turned west to cleanse the west of the impurity known as Native Americans.

How about if the UN came in here and said, "We feel sorry for the genocide committed against these people therefore we are moving everyone out of the pacific northwest and giving them a homeland of their own."