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Two Men Removed from DFW-Bound Flight
WFAA - Dallas/Fort Worth ABC Affiliate ^ | 09/23/01 | Reporter: The Associated Press | Online Producer: Walt Zwirko

Posted on 09/23/2001 10:04:22 PM PDT by Newton

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The Washington Times
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Inside the Beltway
John McCaslin

THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published 9/20/2001
Worth repeating
Over the airplane's public-address system came a most incredible announcement from the captain of United Flight 564 as it was about to pull out of the gate at Denver International Airport last Saturday, writes Peter Hannaford, a public-affairs consultant in Washington and former adviser to President Reagan.

"I want to thank you brave folks for coming out today," the pilot began. "We don't have any new instructions from the federal government, so from now on, we're on our own."

The passengers listened in total silence.

"Sometimes a potential hijacker will announce that he has a bomb. There are no bombs on this aircraft and if someone were to get up and make that claim, don't believe him. If someone were to stand up, brandish something such as a plastic knife and say, 'This is a hijacking' or words to that effect, here is what you should do:

"Every one of you should stand up and immediately throw things at that person — pillows, books, magazines, eyeglasses, shoes — anything that will throw him off balance and distract his attention. If he has a confederate or two, do the same with them. Most important: get a blanket over him, then wrestle him to the floor and keep him there. We'll land the plane at the nearest airport and the authorities will take it from there.

"Remember, there will be one of him and maybe a few confederates, but there are 200 of you. Now, since we're a family for the next few hours, I'll ask you to turn to the person next to you, introduce yourself, tell them a little about yourself and ask them to do the same."

The end of this remarkable speech, Mr. Hannaford says, brought sustained clapping from the passengers.</bq

21 posted on 09/23/2001 11:49:59 PM PDT by jellybean
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To: Newton
And let's not forget the Dallas schoolchild who told his teacher on Sept. 10th, "World War 3 will start tomorrow. It will start in the United States and the United States will lose." Whatever happened to that kid? I bet he overheard Uncle Omar talking with cousin Kareem.
23 posted on 09/24/2001 12:09:20 AM PDT by GLDNGUN (GLDNGUN@PeoplePC.com)
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To: jellybean

"Every one of you should stand up and immediately throw things at that person — pillows, books, magazines, eyeglasses, shoes — anything that will throw him off balance and distract his attention. If he has a confederate or two, do the same with them. Most important: get a blanket over him, then wrestle him to the floor and keep him there. We'll land the plane at the nearest airport and the authorities will take it from there.

"Remember, there will be one of him and maybe a few confederates, but there are 200 of you. Now, since we're a family for the next few hours, I'll ask you to turn to the person next to you, introduce yourself, tell them a little about yourself and ask them to do the same."

Beautiful, beautiful speech. If every pilot said that before taking off, there'd be no need for 2-hour waits at the airline counter, national ID cards, or any of the other silly and/or expensive reactions they're talking about.

(Nevertheless: Arm the pilots!)

24 posted on 09/24/2001 1:11:19 AM PDT by jennyp
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To: GLDNGUN
any chance you have a link for that ?
25 posted on 09/24/2001 2:44:01 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: ClancyJ
Yes, there are cells on the campuses but they take their orders from the cells directors at local mosques. It is going to be very hard to fight this terror network without appearing as if we are fighting a war against the Muslim faith. Iran has been working for decades to radicalize many mosques in the US. On the surface they have their normal Muslim religious activities, but underneath there are groups within that are coordinating the terrorists cells. This is according to Yossef Bodansky's books on terrorism written after the first World Trade Center bombing.
26 posted on 09/24/2001 4:10:35 AM PDT by wjeanw
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To: Pete53
Detain them for life and make them live on pork fatback.
27 posted on 09/24/2001 4:24:24 AM PDT by cpressroll
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To: Carol-HuTex
You wrote: "Sure seems like all the turds are trying to get to Texas. "

Maybe you should re-read the article, which states:

"The plane was due to leave at 6:48 p.m. from Austin and to Dallas Fort Worth International Airport. "

They were already in Texas, and trying to get to North Carolina. The fact is, they've been in Texas and Oklahoma for years. Many Freepers have known about it, but apparently the FBI was caught unawares. (Or so they claim.)

29 posted on 09/24/2001 6:44:13 AM PDT by MizSterious
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"World War 3 will start tomorrow. It will start in the United States and the United States will lose."

Well, we "lost" Desert Storm, too. Just ask Saddam Hussein.

The Arabs consider it a win for them if we don't physically conquer and occupy every inch of their countries.

This is a very low standard, so by that standard, the kid is right. We're not going to be crazy enough to conquer territory and remain there as targets for suicide bombers.

31 posted on 09/24/2001 6:57:46 AM PDT by longleaf
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To: Carol-HuTex
We already found one "money man" in the form of a San Antonio doctor. He is also believed to have provided safe houses and the like for them. This should tell us to look for the other "money men" in the area. The cells have been there for a number of years; one of their purposes might well have been to provide support, if not suicide pilots, for their "cause." (Personally, I'd give a lot to see the expressions on the faces of the suiciders when they found out where, exactly, they were going when they thought they were going to Heaven to meet their 71 virgins...)
32 posted on 09/24/2001 6:58:26 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: wjeanw
On the surface they have their normal Muslim religious activities, but underneath there are groups within that are coordinating the terrorists cells.

Ok, people of the Muslim faith then need to take action and clean them out. We will fight the radicals and it is up to the Muslims to fight them or they will turn their faith into a terrorist organization.

As an example - say Christians had people using domestic airplanes to bomb those they hated. The attacked nation of course would attack Christians. To avoid an all out world attack on Christians, the Christians themselves must go after the radical Christians taking over their faith in the eyes of the world. Otherwise, the normal Christians appear as if they condone the action and then the radicals have torn down their religion as well as made it into a terrorist organization.

The Muslim faith has to clean house unless they want the radicals to steal their faith and turn it into merely a terrorist organization. It is up to them. We are not to be faulted for fighting terrorism - we were attacked.

33 posted on 09/24/2001 7:00:45 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: blam
Former Bergstrom AFB. A bunch of us convoyed down from Fort Hood to help clear it out in 1996. The city has since turned it into an airport to replace the old one north of downtown.

The new Austin-Bergstrom is great and is one of the best airports I've ever flown into.

34 posted on 09/24/2001 7:07:05 AM PDT by AlaninSA
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To: Newton
The two people who were detained have been released. Mistaken identity, I believe. Too much similarity of names.
35 posted on 09/24/2001 7:15:59 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: GLDNGUN
"And let's not forget the Dallas schoolchild who told his teacher on Sept. 10th, "World War 3 will start tomorrow. It will start in the United States and the United States will lose." Whatever happened to that kid?"

Hmmmm....where did you hear that? This is the first I've heard this.

36 posted on 09/24/2001 7:24:14 AM PDT by Independent Lady
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To: ClancyJ
When I was in college in '75 I remember a huge enrollment of Iranians. They drove TransAms, wore plenty of cologne (since they didn't bathe often that was important I suppose), and appeared to try *hard* at fitting in the American ideal. I wondered at that time why so many were over here. Still wondering.
37 posted on 09/24/2001 7:27:06 AM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: STARWISE
**SO SO SORRY for the multiple posts. With the DNS problems, I couldn't get a clear message that I posted and so did the stoooopid thing ...... I posted 5 of 'em. LOL Forgive me! ;-)**

LOL! Sometimes it's wise to have multiple posts. It's early and I read every single one of them as if they were all different. LOL! Good morning.

38 posted on 09/24/2001 7:30:17 AM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: jellybean
This is great! Thanks for posting this, jellybean.

My husband is doing some flying in October and we as a family are flying cross-country soon. Good reminder and advice in what you posted.

39 posted on 09/24/2001 7:35:10 AM PDT by homeschool mama
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When I was in college in '75 I remember a huge enrollment of Iranians. They drove TransAms, wore plenty of cologne (since they didn't bathe often that was important I suppose), and appeared to try *hard* at fitting in the American ideal. I wondered at that time why so many were over here.

I went to school with those same guys in the late '70's. Most were glad to be out of Iran after the mullahs took over. I worked with one guy (mechanical engineer), who was supporting his extended family, who had escaped after the fall of the Shah and the rise of Khomeni. He was good people. His kids are probably as American as apple pie now, 20+ years later.

40 posted on 09/24/2001 7:51:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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